No, he was saying that in the winter of 2011 going into 2012. Myers had conquered AA by then, was lighting up everyone's prospect charts, and on his way to AAA.

Dead ass wrong. It was after the 2011 season where Wil had just completed a year in AA. He was 10th in the prospect ratings before that year and 28th after. He was not "that low" in the system nor was he not universally accepted as a high end prospect by then.


Here's the trade article:
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...n-prado-offer/

If that's his overall point, that's fine. If he had been suggesting moving Wil Myers for a guy who was WORTH the price, that's fine, too.

But he was suggesting moving a top 25 prospect for a replacement-level starter having a good half season due to smoke and mirrors. And when people pointed out that Jurrjens actually wasn't that good, he flipped out.

I'm not crazy about the Myers/Shields trade and will consider it a colossal failure if they don't make the playoffs this year or next. But at least the value was pretty damn close to correct.

They absolutely should worry about 2014 now.

Ok, I was wrong. Still don't care and would trade anyone that I thought gave the team, Major league, a chance to win.

Fair point. I think the main thesis here is that when Petro says something about MLB (esp a trade proposal), start laughing the second he begins. Just laugh at him. He's a clown who deserves nothing more.

Then that's a reason to trade Santana: It addresses 2014 and takes advantage of high prices on deadline day.

I'm OK with that. I'm not OK with doing nothing.

ONLY to the extent that they say "we need this guy for 2013, but while we're at it, make sure he's here for 2014 also" Thats it.

If, as was suggested last page, this team is .500 as-is, then we're done. We stand pat and wait for the winter, because prices for 2014 are lower in the winter than they are right now.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

Petro is actually very knowledgeable regarding baseball, he can go a bit over-board on his "stance" sometimes, though.

And... boom.

Myers' had a down 2011 (while injured and transitioning to a new position) but was still a consensus top 25-30 prospect who was about 1.5-2 years away from MLB.

Correct. For baseball reasons, we should trade Santana. He's not being traded basically for business reasons.

edit: unless we can somehow re-sign Santana for a reasonable deal, of course.

with a good organization I would agree, but this is not a good organization. We don't develop talent very well. He wants to use prospects to maximize their "hype" in acquiring wins for the short window we have.

I laugh more at people that want to do nothing and expect to win games at some point.

Message boards are known for their clear and rational thoughts however. He is a baseball nerd just like all of us.