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HolyHandgernade 09-04-2011 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878541)
So, why didn't Texas jump to the PAC last year? They make more money not being part of that conference.
No, actually, they don't. The reason they didn't do it last year was because they didn't have the regional network idea in place or finalized. If Texas gets 20 million from the Big XII deal and 7 million a year from the LHN that's not close to the 30-40 million they could potentially be getting.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ich_quick.html

Stewie 09-04-2011 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7878548)
Supposing that's true, what does Kansas bring to the table? The entire population of the state of Kansas is almost identical to the Saint Louis metro area. I don't see the PAC deciding to grab a school two time zones east when the school has no football team, and the state has no television sets.
A national name brand in basketball. The Financial Times sports writer said last year that the value of top tier basketball programs trump a typical BCS college football program. He was amazed that this fact was being ignored in reporting.

HolyHandgernade 09-04-2011 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7878548)
Supposing that's true, what does Kansas bring to the table? The entire population of the state of Kansas is almost identical to the Saint Louis metro area. I don't see the PAC deciding to grab a school two time zones east when the school has no football team, and the state has no television sets.
Kansas' only problem was that they weren't located in Texas. We're not competing against Texas and OU. We're competing against OSU and Tech. What do those two schools bring that OU and Texas doesn't already deliver for someone? Kansas could give them a better national name, a superior basketball presence, and the Wichita-Topeka-half of KC market. Its not even really close, especially when it comes to Tech. But Tech is in Texas.

This is why I kept saying MU and KU should have been lobbying for inclusion. These deals are bigger than anything else in college sports. People making stupid comments like "Oh, the travel costs!" Really? At the 30-40 million a year, you couldn't make the travel work? People are brain dead around here at times.

Stewie 09-04-2011 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7878553)
No, actually, they don't. The reason they didn't do it last year was because they didn't have the regional network idea in place or finalized. If Texas gets 20 million from the Big XII deal and 7 million a year from the LHN that's not close to the 30-40 million they could potentially be getting.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ich_quick.html
Texas doesn't want to be part of regional networks. They just got a multi-million dollar deal from ESPN that is exclusively their network. The PAC will not allow anything but a regional network AKA NO single school shall have their own network.

Saul Good 09-04-2011 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878562)
Texas doesn't want to be part of regional networks. They just got a multi-million dollar deal from ESPN that is exclusively their network. The PAC will not allow anything but a regional network AKA NO single school shall have their own network.
LHN is on life support. It's as likely to have the plug pulled as not.

Saul Good 09-04-2011 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7878559)
We're not competing against Texas and OU. We're competing against OSU and Tech.
Says who?

Stewie 09-04-2011 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7878567)
LHN is on life support. It's as likely to have the plug pulled as not.
Says who? Is the University of Texas going to quit playing sports? The whole purpose of the network is to promote and show UT sports. Everyone else be damned.

Saul Good 09-04-2011 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878572)
Says who? Is the University of Texas going to quit playing sports? The whole purpose of the network is to promote and show UT sports. Everyone else be damned.
And how many homes get LHN?

Bowser 09-04-2011 01:01 PM
Has the Big XII had any kind of statementsince Pinkel blasted Beebe, or now that Oklahoma is threatening to take OSU and possibly bail?

Pinkel was right - there isn't a single other conference out there dealing with the ineptitude the remaining Big XII schools are....

Stewie 09-04-2011 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7878573)
And how many homes get LHN?
It's a fledgling network. You don't think UT fans won't clamor to have that added to their cable/satellite system? Verizon is the lone carrier, but either they get a shitload of new subscribers or others step up to the plate.

Stewie 09-04-2011 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7878576)
Has the Big XII had any kind of statementsince Pinkel blasted Beebe, or now that Oklahoma is threatening to take OSU and possibly bail?

Pinkel was right - there isn't a single other conference out there dealing with the ineptitude the remaining Big XII schools are....
Not that I've heard. Beebe is all about Texas. They'll try to browbeat some conference into something that favors Texas. It's how they operate.

KChiefs1 09-04-2011 01:08 PM
Just saw this poll on PowerMizzou.com

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<HR>I've seen this question asked with several options but I was wondering which one of our top 2 choices would you like to see MIZZOU join and why?

Bowser 09-04-2011 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878580)
Not that I've heard. Beebe is all about Texas. They'll try to browbeat some conference into something that favors Texas. It's how they operate.
That's ****ed up. I have no idea how these things work, but can the schools get together and have a vote of no confidence in Beebe and get him out of a position of power in the Big XII? It's obvious he's rotting the conference away from the inside.

And when I said remaining Big XII schools, I meant everyone but Texas, obviously.

Stewie 09-04-2011 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7878583)
Just saw this poll on PowerMizzou.com

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<hr>I've seen this question asked with several options but I was wondering which one of our top 2 choices would you like to see MIZZOU join and why?
That's really surprising. I think the Big 10 is the superior option.

Bowser 09-04-2011 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7878583)
Just saw this poll on PowerMizzou.com

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<HR>I've seen this question asked with several options but I was wondering which one of our top 2 choices would you like to see MIZZOU join and why?
Mizzou would get pushed around in the SEC.....


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