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Cephalic Trauma 02-06-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10417054)
Too much sugar equals death.

Yeah, sugar is basically heroin but in a lighter form. :)

UK_Chief 02-06-2014 08:45 AM

Life expectancy is increasing in the US, but not as quickly as in other countries, despite having the highest healthcare spend per person, and that is due to obesity.

http://www.diabetescure101.com/us_life_expectancy.htm

MahiMike 02-06-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UK_Chief (Post 10417096)
Life expectancy is increasing in the US, but not as quickly as in other countries, despite having the highest healthcare spend per person, and that is due to obesity.

http://www.diabetescure101.com/us_life_expectancy.htm

Disagree with that last statement. Healthcare costs in america are the highest anywhere. Doesn't matter if you are skinny or fat.

UK_Chief 02-06-2014 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10417099)
Disagree with that last statement. Healthcare costs in america are the highest anywhere. Doesn't matter if you are skinny or fat.

I meant obesity is slowing down life expectancy increase rate in the US compared to other countries.

Eleazar 02-06-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10417099)
Disagree with that last statement. Healthcare costs in america are the highest anywhere. Doesn't matter if you are skinny or fat.

Obesity clogs the system with preventable illnesses, driving up cost for everyone.

htismaqe 02-06-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10417165)
Obesity clogs the system with preventable illnesses, driving up cost for everyone.

And yet they continue to put the stuff that causes obesity, namely HFCS, in EVERYTHING.

One has to be educated in order to make good choices and yet our education system is slowly but surely failing.

Obesity is preventable, yes. But the people in charge, despite their lip service to the issue, are doing NOTHING to actually prevent it.

jiveturkey 02-06-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10417179)
And yet they continue to put the stuff that causes obesity, namely HFCS, in EVERYTHING.

One has to be educated in order to make good choices and yet our education system is slowly but surely failing.

Obesity is preventable, yes. But the people in charge, despite their lip service to the issue, are doing NOTHING to actually prevent it.

I think it's pretty easy to argue that the people in charge are actively working to make the situation worse. Subsidizing HFCS, cane sugar, beet sugar and wheat is flat out dumb IMO. Farmers should be protected but the current system is flooding the market with cheap garbage and we're all paying for it.

Cephalic Trauma 02-06-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10417179)
And yet they continue to put the stuff that causes obesity, namely HFCS, in EVERYTHING.

One has to be educated in order to make good choices and yet our education system is slowly but surely failing.

Obesity is preventable, yes. But the people in charge, despite their lip service to the issue, are doing NOTHING to actually prevent it.

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 10417200)
I think it's pretty easy to argue that the people in charge are actively working to make the situation worse. Subsidizing HFCS, cane sugar, beet sugar and wheat is flat out dumb IMO. Farmers should be protected but the current system is flooding the market with cheap garbage and we're all paying for it.

QFT. Totally agree with both of you.

Silock 02-06-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10417179)
And yet they continue to put the stuff that causes obesity, namely HFCS, in EVERYTHING.

One has to be educated in order to make good choices and yet our education system is slowly but surely failing.

Obesity is preventable, yes. But the people in charge, despite their lip service to the issue, are doing NOTHING to actually prevent it.

Except HFCS doesn't actually CAUSE obesity.

Cephalic Trauma 02-06-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10417237)
Except HFCS doesn't actually CAUSE obesity.

Elaborate.

I mean, sure, it's very easy to say HFCS doesn't "cause" obesity in the sense that simple exposure to it makes you fat. But if you eat sufficient quantities, it can be an extreme contributing factor. And in a society that is bombarded with it, isn't it more practical to look at HFCS as a significant "cause", though it isn't technically true?

Carlota69 02-06-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10417179)
And yet they continue to put the stuff that causes obesity, namely HFCS, in EVERYTHING.

One has to be educated in order to make good choices and yet our education system is slowly but surely failing.

Obesity is preventable, yes. But the people in charge, despite their lip service to the issue, are doing NOTHING to actually prevent it.

Yet, when they try to do something, anything, they get chastised, like the Mayor of NY. Granted, he may not have the exact way of handling it, but he was on the right track, and got lambasted for it. Theres no winning when you try to take peoples addictions away.

J Diddy 02-06-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10417238)
Elaborate.

I mean, sure, it's very easy to say HFCS doesn't "cause" obesity in the sense that simple exposure to it makes you fat. But if you eat sufficient quantities, it can be an extreme contributing factor. And in a society that is bombarded with it, isn't it more practical to look at HFCS as a significant "cause", though it isn't technically true?

I would say that it's true. Furthermore, I would say Princeton agrees with me.

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/a.../S26/91/22K07/


From all that I've heard is that it changes your metabolism when longterm exposure is encountered.

J Diddy 02-06-2014 11:46 AM

Imo, the best thing that can be done is to stop corn and sugar subsidies.

htismaqe 02-06-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10417242)
Yet, when they try to do something, anything, they get chastised, like the Mayor of NY. Granted, he may not have the exact way of handling it, but he was on the right track, and got lambasted for it. Theres no winning when you try to take peoples addictions away.

Because the Mayor of NY is regulating the consumer.

Why not regulate the PRODUCER? Oh that's right, because they're giving you boatloads of money...

Carlota69 02-06-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10417312)
Because the Mayor of NY is regulating the consumer.

Why not regulate the PRODUCER? Oh that's right, because they're giving you boatloads of money...

Yep, and thats partially why the Mayor went after someone, anyone. It just happeneds to be us because the producers cant be touched. Its a sad state of affairs


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