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splatbass 03-22-2013 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9520268)
The Packers can do that because they have a QB. The Eagles (largely) were able to do that. And that also explains the Steelers and Ravens.

I'm trying to advocate against building the San Francisco way simply because it's so damn hard to find that many talented players across the board, THEN keep them all happy contract-wise. It's a lot easier to fill one position and simply make good selections (i.e. BPA) than it is to take an Alex Smith or Matt Cassel

Alex Smith > Matt Cassel.

Mark it down, Alex Smith will be successful in KC.

KCDC 03-22-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9520274)
Alex Smith > Matt Cassel.

Mark it down, Alex Smith will be successful in KC.

Any QB in the NFL > Cassel

Cassel in his second year took us to the playoffs and was a Pro Bowl alternate. Sounds like he was a "success" in KC.

How are you going to define "success" for AS? It has to be better than that.

BigRedChief 03-22-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 9520275)
Any QB in the NFL > Cassel

Cassel in his second year took us to the playoffs and was a Pro Bowl alternate. Sounds like he was a "success" in KC.

How are you going to define "success" for AS? It has to be better than that.

Most definitely

splatbass 03-22-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 9520275)
Any QB in the NFL > Cassel

Cassel in his second year took us to the playoffs and was a Pro Bowl alternate. Sounds like he was a "success" in KC.

I was responding to someone that compared Smith to Cassel. You should address this to him.

Alex Smith is a good QB. He is just not what the collective CP brain trust has wished for, so they will attack him relentlessly. That is all this is about. They will never give him a chance, and will unfairly compare him to Cassel (as the person I was responding to did) because they are throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way.

KCDC 03-22-2013 12:38 PM

I was responding to your comment that we should mark it down that you think AS will be successful.

It will be easy for Homers to claim in 2015, when he is cut, that he was "successful" and that they were right ... merely because our record improved from 2-14 in 2012 to 8-8 in 2013 and 9-7 in 2014.

My point is that the "collective CP brain trust" is not likely to consider AS to be a "success" unless he has statistics that place him as a top 10 QB and the team wins at least one playoff game in the next two seasons. I think that would be a minimum, IMO.

BigMeatballDave 03-22-2013 12:43 PM

Should we change the name of this forum to "I didn't get my way so I'm throwing a tantrum like a petulant child"?

splatbass 03-22-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 9521145)
I was responding to your comment that we should mark it down that you think AS will be successful.

It will be easy for Homers to claim in 2015, when he is cut, that he was "successful" and that they were right ... merely because our record improved from 2-14 in 2012 to 8-8 in 2013 and 9-7 in 2014.

My point is that the "collective CP brain trust" is not likely to consider AS to be a "success" unless he has statistics that place him as a top 10 QB and the team wins at least one playoff game in the next two seasons. I think that would be a minimum, IMO.

Some of the people won't accept him even if he is a top 10 QB and wins a playoff game because his name is not Geno. Fortunately as the poll shows they are a small, although loud, minority.

KCDC 03-22-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9521173)
Should we change the name of this forum to "I didn't get my way so I'm throwing a tantrum like a petulant child"?

I assume you mean the Homers that are petulant that anyone dare criticize the regime and see anything other than unicorns and rainbows in the future?

BigMeatballDave 03-22-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 9521253)
I assume you mean the Homers that are petulant that anyone dare criticize the regime and see anything other than unicorns and rainbows in the future?

:LOL: I truly hope you are smarter than this.

BigMeatballDave 03-22-2013 01:26 PM

At this point I'd much rather be labeled a 'True Fan' or 'Homer'.

I wanted Geno.

I did not like the trade for Alex.

I want them to keep Albert.

I do not want to draft Joeckel #1.

I just don't feel the need to cry about all of it like a little girl with skinned knees.

Get over yourselves.

ptlyon 03-22-2013 01:35 PM

"Daddy - why do we have to leave now? Can't we stay? What are we doing stopping on this bridge?"

O.city 03-22-2013 01:36 PM

Hard to be positive when the last 20 years have been suck. I guess you could replace negative with apathetic.


But here's to hoping they get it right eventually

ChiefMojo 03-22-2013 01:39 PM

I found long time ago, this is not the board to be a member of if your looking for any happiness. Doom and gloom rules the day. To even think positive on anything means your a complete "true fan". It gets old quick but just the way it is on CP.

KCDC 03-22-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9521292)
:LOL: I truly hope you are smarter than this.

I thought a bit of humor was needed. ;)

KCDC 03-22-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9521302)
At this point I'd much rather be labeled a 'True Fan' or 'Homer'.

I wanted Geno.

I did not like the trade for Alex.

I want them to keep Albert.

I do not want to draft Joeckel #1.

I just don't feel the need to cry about all of it like a little girl with skinned knees.

Get over yourselves.


I agree with everything you said. Thank you.

The only difference between us is that I do not presume to tell someone when they need to "move on." This is especially true when the draft trades and selections are yet to occur.

Any regime that sees AS as the long term solution for this team, IMO, deserves to be suspected and subject to criticism. If he selects Geno, I will stop complaining.

If they trade down, get a great player, get an extra first rounder next year, and select a QB in round 3 that turns out to be a hope for the future, I will get on the bandwagon too.


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