ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

How often do you make confident predictions for something that happens less than 5 percent of the time?

Just curious.

I also think the idea that the Chiefs have been holding back is a bit of. They didn't hold anything back in the first half against the Browns. You don't hold things back in close games, which the Chiefs have been in all season.

I find it highly unlikely the Chiefs have any awesome plays/formations/schemes they haven't already used, more than halfway through the season. That's not the way coaches work, even at the college level (where they have much more margin for holding things back against more inferior opponents).

I think EVERY team holds something back for later...but how much that really is? I dunno.

mschiefs1984

11-08-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10169772)

QB is the most important position on the field unless that means giving credit to Alex Smith for winning.

Got it.

That seems to be the rule the Alex haters have.

Alex is not the reason this team is 9-0. But he is part of the reason that this team is 9-0. He's not making the mistakes to lose that game that the QBS this team has had in the past have made even with a good defense. That's why he has won so many games over the last 3 years. He doesn't do things to lose the games.

Mr. Plow

11-08-2013 12:42 PM

Ok, he has only thrown for 300+ yards 3 times.

In looking I also found that he's thrown for 100-199 yards in 42 games (out of 89 total games played) & he's thrown for 200-299 yards 35 times.

He's also on pace for more games of 200+ yards passing in one season.

NinerDoug

11-08-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10168890)

Aw, how cute, has a Fiat and thinks it's a Porsche.

Hardy har har. If anything, it's a Ferrari.

Hammock Parties

11-08-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10169830)

Has he really only thrown for 300+ yards 3 times in his career? I don't think I believe that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10169915)

Ok, he has only thrown for 300+ yards 3 times.

LMAO

Now check out the # of times he's thrown 3 TDs.

0 games of 4 TDs of course.

I mean **** even Cassel did that.

Mr. Plow

11-08-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10169983)

Hardy har har. If anything, it's a Ferrari.

You're kidding yourself.

duncan_idaho

11-08-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10169890)

I think EVERY team holds something back for later...but how much that really is? I dunno.

Develop new stuff for the playbook that's based on the team they're playing/will play soon? Sure.

Evolve current plays to tweak them against an opponent and exploit a specific area? Sure.

Install new things as the season goes on (typically based on your team's strengths and weaknesses? Sure.

But put stuff in that's part of your playbook and purposely sit on it this far into the season, especially while playing a bunch of close games? No, not really.

At least not any coach I've ever spoken to. I know it's a common fan thought, that coaches hold things back for long periods of time, but my experience is that coaches find the thought they'd hold back something good that could help them win to be funny.

Jakemall

11-08-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10170007)

Again, I wouldn't suggest anything major...but I am sure there are "wrinkles" that coaches would hold or use sparingly...but regardless of that, being a 1st year offense, I am sure that there are plays that haven't been installed into the offense yet..which basically accomplishes the same thing...intentional or not.

duncan_idaho

11-08-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 10169983)

Hardy har har. If anything, it's a Ferrari.

Make sure you update your sig after the bye this weekend. Of the 5 guys between Alex Smith and the top 10, only one has yet to have a bye week.

There are also three players within 150 or less passing yards of Smith who have already had their bye weeks.

Maybe you should see if he'll revise and let you use top 15!

duncan_idaho

11-08-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10170020)

I'm not arguing that the playbook isn't updated/changed as the season goes on (though that's much more prevalent in the NFL than college, due to the difference in practice rules).

Just that the idea that teams put stuff in early and sit on it for months is faulty. Most "wrinkles" that get put in are things that are developed fresh, after in-season film study.

I am sure - and this is not based on opinion, this is based on talking to coaches and scouts and reporters and other football people as part of my job - of that.

Sweet Daddy Hate

11-08-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10169573)

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/alex-s...e-right-place/

Alex Smith, In the Right Place
After eight rocky seasons in San Francisco, the quarterback has found a perfect new home in Kansas City—and Andy Reid has the ideal player to run his offense
By
Peter King

For now.

And why in the merry blue **** would we be "holding back" plays when can't even execute the plays we have now?

Hmm?

warrior

11-08-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10170063)

For now.

And why in the merry blue **** would we be "holding back" plays when can't even execute the plays we have now?

Hmm?

Maybe you should think about what you just asked over the weekend :doh!:

or not I really don't care

Marcellus

11-08-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10170063)

For now.

And why in the merry blue **** would we be "holding back" plays when can't even execute the plays we have now?

Hmm?

Where did you read they were holding back?

keg in kc

11-08-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 10170063)

For now.

And why in the merry blue **** would we be "holding back" plays when can't even execute the plays we have now?

Hmm?

It's rationalization. Makes one feel better to think the offense isn't trying rather than outright failing.

Marcellus

11-08-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

On not being a “game manager,” playing cautiously to avoid turnovers

Smith: That’s definitely not the mindset you want. If you play in that mindset, then you aren’t going to be successful. There’s certainly a sweet spot there where you’re going out and playing football, but what you’ve been coached to do and what you’ve been taught to do in your fundamentals is take care of protecting the football. Don’t get me wrong, there have been some times when I’ve gone out there [with the game manager mentality]—and it’s never been good. You don’t ever want to go out there saying that. You don’t ever want to go out there just saying you’re not going to turn the football over. You’re out there to execute an offense. People can look at it however they want, but for me the goal is to score points as an offense. You can put up however many freakin’ yards you want. The goal is to score points. And with that, yeah, protect the football. I watch a lot of football, and not just the NFL, and you see teams just giving it away. It’s hard enough to win football games when you’re not giving it away. For us, it’s not about being conservative. We’re trying to score points. Can we do a better job of that? No question.

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