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BleedingRed 03-09-2023 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16845689)
DHop is a YAC monster at 2.6

Juju must be other worldly with a 6.0yac.

You have to look at QB play and system for YAC.... And no one thinks JuJu is better than Hopkins

ToxSocks 03-09-2023 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16845693)
Oh, don't let me forget a higher catch % than the best hands in the business as well.

Catching 5 yard passes from Patrick Mahomes is hard stuff.

Abba-Dabba 03-09-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16845694)
You have to look at QB play and system for YAC.... And no one thinks JuJu is better than Hopkins

I didn't say JuJu was a better receiver than Hopkins.

ToxSocks 03-09-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16845694)
You have to look at QB play and system for YAC.... And no one thinks JuJu is better than Hopkins

Abba-Dabba does.

BleedingRed 03-09-2023 12:38 PM

Point is, if he is willing to play on the remainer of his contract... Its a no ****ing brainer. And the Chiefs offense would reach a new peak....

I'm talking potentially undefeated type shit

Abba-Dabba 03-09-2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16845695)
Catching 5 yard passes from Patrick Mahomes is hard stuff.

But it is a part of what is needed in the offense. Unless you slept on a iceberg for 2021. The deep threat alone with Kelce doesn't bring championships any more.

Megatron96 03-09-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16845689)
DHop is a YAC monster at 2.6

Juju must be other worldly with a 6.0yac.

Lol, again with the single season stat. And wow, let's take the worst season as well. I guess we don't even have to bother with context either. Like, which player saw double coverage every snap, or which was the only receiver the defense cared about, or who was throwing passes to the receiver . . . keep living in your fishbowl, bud :rolleyes:

Abba-Dabba 03-09-2023 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16845697)
Abba-Dabba does.

No , I think that hamstringing yourself to a large contract, like over 20million for a WR will make the offense less diverse and more easily defendable.

htismaqe 03-09-2023 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16845708)
No , I think that hamstringing yourself to a large contract, like over 20million for a WR will make the offense less diverse and more easily defendable.

Nobody here is wanting DHop with an expensive extension. Pretty much everybody has said they want him to play on his existing deal, which is dirt cheap for a guy of his caliber and only slightly more than JJSS could fetch on the open market.

ToxSocks 03-09-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16845704)
But it is a part of what is needed in the offense. Unless you slept on a iceberg for 2021. The deep threat alone with Kelce doesn't bring championships any more.

IIRC, the Chiefs had more downfield plays of 20+ yards than anyone season other than Mahomes Rookie year. (May have even surpassed that, i don't recall exactly). And it sure as **** wasn't from JJSS winning over the top.

I'm sure Hopkins could manage little 5-10 yard checkdown passes, but then actually present a legit threat against man coverage unlike JuJu.

Mecca 03-09-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16845721)
Nobody here is wanting DHop with an expensive extension. Pretty much everybody has said they want him to play on his existing deal, which is dirt cheap for a guy of his caliber and only slightly more than JJSS could fetch on the open market.

You could probably get that for a year, but if he goes out there and catches 115 balls for 1700 yards and 13 tds yea dude is gonna want some money.

ToxSocks 03-09-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba (Post 16845708)
No , I think that hamstringing yourself to a large contract, like over 20million for a WR will make the offense less diverse and more easily defendable.

The offense isn't more diverse because we no longer have Hill. It's more diverse because Mahomes made it more diverse.

It's not like the Chiefs went out and spent all this money on the WR group. They spent peanuts on MVS and JJSS and then relied on guys with cheap rookie contracts.

Adding a Hopkins doesn't take away from the diversity so long as Andy and Mahomes keep doing what they're doing.

It just means you get a lot more out of your WR by Committee approach, and we can now create some advantages when teams think they can just lock our guys up in man coverage.

htismaqe 03-09-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16845734)
You could probably get that for a year, but if he goes out there and catches 115 balls for 1700 yards and 13 tds yea dude is gonna want some money.

If they keep him on his existing contract, that won't be an issue. They could also structure an extension to make it possible, as well.

ToxSocks 03-09-2023 12:52 PM

It's not like, "Oh shit, they signed Dhop. I guess they can no longer afford Moore and KT's rookie contracts. Welp there goes our offensive diversity!".

MIAdragon 03-09-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16845734)
You could probably get that for a year, but if he goes out there and catches 115 balls for 1700 yards and 13 tds yea dude is gonna want some money.

And we win the bowl again and he can get paid elsewhere.


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