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KCrockaholic 01-06-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9290759)
How come this link isn't in the header?

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/geno-smith

Is it possible for draftbreakdown to ever become a pay site like PFF?

I'm fairly certain it'd be illegal, but I'm just checking.

AussieChiefsFan 01-06-2013 10:46 PM

How about we have a draft Countdown in the OP?

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9290755)
I called you out?

Yeah. "Stage Fright"? WTF?

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9290755)
Daniels and Gabbert were local guys...Ricky could be considered one, too.

With as many people that have either lived or are currently living in Iowa, I think it's justifable to call them "Local". It's a short drive to KC, right? The only regional AFC team broadcast?

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9290755)
There is no bias with Geno and you calling him jag shows how little you've seen of him (which isn't a slam on you, you have admitted that you've seen less than 2 full games of his)

I haven't seen much. But it's a little disconcerting that so many people are adamant that he's "The Guy", yet there's little consensus amongst scouts, the national press, etc.

I'm more of a "Let's see how things shake out" guy than proclaiming him to be the "Savior", which dozens of people seem to be happy to proclaim.

Yet RGIII was a running QB unworthy of the draft choices given up.

LMAO

KCrockaholic 01-06-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9290771)
How about we have a draft Countdown in the OP?

Here ya go http://draftcountdown.com/

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9290765)
I think Smith is every bit as polished a passer as Griffin was at this time last year, I think he has similar tools and attributes in the passing game. He's accurate, can make the reads, can make all the throws, has arm strength to spare. What he does not have is Griffin's sheer freaky athleticism (or Griffin's pair of military parents, making him such a character goldmine, story-wise). So I would put him under RG3. But I do think he's a QB who could transition quickly to the pro game. And while he does not have Griffin's legs, he is very mobile in his own right. And I think he'd be in the discussion for the #1 pick in any recent draft aside from last year.

So he's a notch or two above Tannehill in terms of quarterbacking ability at this particular point, but not as athletic, in your opinion?

You know me, I'm not trying to put you on the spot nor am I aiming for a "Gotcha" moment.

If that's the case, I'd be more than happy to see him drafted.

AussieChiefsFan 01-06-2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9290778)

I meant like an embedded countdown in the OP. But thanks.

silver5liter 01-06-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290785)
So he's a notch or two above Tannehill in terms of quarterbacking ability at this particular point, but not as athletic, in your opinion?

You know me, I'm not trying to put you on the spot nor am I aiming for a "Gotcha" moment.

If that's the case, I'd be more than happy to see him drafted.


Hes far more accurate than Tannehill was coming out.

KCrockaholic 01-06-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9290788)
I meant like an embedded countdown in the OP. But thanks.

I know.

I was being a smart ass.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9290792)
Hes far more accurate than Tannehill was coming out.

Is that because of Big East competition?

Three7s 01-06-2013 11:00 PM

Geez, it never ends.

I was just watching Smack Back on NBC and some dumbass wrote in clamoring for Tim Tebow. Tim freaking Tebow......

These people shouldn't be allowed to formulate opinions.

aturnis 01-06-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290712)
Scrambling is different than rushing.

RGIII is NOT a rushing quarterback. He's had to run because his offensive line sucks ****ing ass in pass protection.

Vick too...

keg in kc 01-06-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290764)
You're a WV or V guy - did you watch him this season? I saw the K-State game and was wildly disappointed. I tried again to watch him versus Oklahoma State and turned off the TV. Better things to do.

Anyway, with the ****ing non-stop pimping of the guy, I expected to see a sure-fire #1 overall guy, not what I saw.

And DJ's Left Nut suggested early on that their ****ing asshat of coach should be the Chiefs next Offensive Coordinator, to which I fully disagreed.

:shake:

There are just too many ****ing homers here anymore and it's just too difficult to sort through them.

I think I saw him play 8 games this year. I saw at least that many again during his sophomore and junior seasons. I've seen a quite a bit of him. I was actually talking about him around the time of the draft last year.

He's not perfect, but I think some of his perceived problems have at least as much to do with the team he's on as they do with him. You can say a lot of the same things for WVU that people will say for Arkansas. Bad, bad o-line, not even a semblence of a defense so he's put under constant pressure to score. As many rushing yards as they got, they really didn't have any kind of legit threat at RB, at least not in my opinion (nobody on the team aside from Austin had a run over 30 yards the entire season). Bailey and Austin were tremendous receivers, so that obviously helped him, but I don't remember them ever really having a TE involved in the passing game this year, everything seemed to go through WRs and RBs, so he never really had a big TE safety net the way a lot of QBs do at least not that I remember. I think he was primarily throwing to guys in the 5'9-6' range, so obviously there's going to be a lot of short stuff.

And hey, they lost games. That's the killer. They lost games, and he gets the blame for that. Against K-State, I think he deserved it. Other games, I'm not so sure. They turn around a couple of 1-point losses where the defense gives the game up after he leads the team to late scores and we're talking about a QB on a 9-win team, and he probably looks a lot more like Griffin in the public eye.

But he can do everything you want. He's shown he can read the field, he's shown he can go through progressions, he's shown he can complete just about any throw you can think of, long, short and in-between, and he's shown he can do it with touch and with accuracy. He I think needs some work with footwork and mechanics, with consistency at times, but there just isn't anything that red-flags me. I think the odds are that he's going to be a good pro quarterback.

keg in kc 01-06-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290785)
So he's a notch or two above Tannehill in terms of quarterbacking ability at this particular point, but not as athletic, in your opinion?

You know me, I'm not trying to put you on the spot nor am I aiming for a "Gotcha" moment.

If that's the case, I'd be more than happy to see him drafted.

I didn't like Tannehill at all. I think he's more than a notch better than that. I think he's much more advanced as a passer.

Mother****erJones 01-06-2013 11:08 PM

Man i liked Tannehill. Maybe not as elite but like a Rivers type QB

Saccopoo 01-06-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9290804)
I didn't like Tannehill at all. I think he's more than a notch better than that. I think he's much more advanced as a passer.

Ayep.


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