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Brock 02-06-2014 06:09 PM

Dudebro. My quads are in need of some SLIN!

ShortRoundChief 02-06-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10417671)
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/88/6/1716S.full

Also, you are posting that Princeton study with rat trials. Rats have a very different carbohydrate metabolism than humans do. They aren't comparable 1:1.

No, you are correct that they are not, however, it is enough for me.

Omaha 02-07-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Pull (Post 10417349)
and getting boatloads of money from you.

I was reading in my microeconomics book yesterday about this very topic. The very politicians who are screaming at the outrage over this are the same ones causing the problem.

If people would simply give a shit about themselves and make smart, responsible choices at the grocery store, there would be no problem. All of this shit would go away.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10418969)
If people would simply give a shit about themselves and make smart, responsible choices at the grocery store, there would be no problem. All of this shit would go away.

How can the average person make smart, responsible choices when they're not being provided the correct information to start with?

Most of us discussing this here found out this info on our own, seeking it out specifically. Most of us are also "above average" intellectually.

ShortRoundChief 02-07-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10418969)
If people would simply give a shit about themselves and make smart, responsible choices at the grocery store, there would be no problem. All of this shit would go away.

Hey I bought sugar free oatmeal this morning and some artificial sweetener to go with my coffee.

I'm all about getting superserious.

jiveturkey 02-07-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10418969)
If people would simply give a shit about themselves and make smart, responsible choices at the grocery store, there would be no problem. All of this shit would go away.

There is still a huge knowledge gap though. I can't think of anyone that thinks sugar is good for them but I'm always asked how I stay slim/fit and when I tell them that I rarely eat sugar or grains they just throw their hands up in defeat. They make the decision to stay fat, with sleep apnea, constant illness and lack of energy because bread tastes really ****ing good.

Then there's people that think they're eating healthy because of smoothies and fruit juice (aka sugar drinks).

You don't even have to stay low carb. Working out on an ultra low carb diet sucks all the balls. I'm just picky about the types of carbs that I eat. After experimenting with low carb I found that my blood profile also improves quite a bit when I'm constantly chowing down on potatoes, white rice and whole fruit.

jiveturkey 02-07-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10418972)
How can the average person make smart, responsible choices when they're not being provided the correct information to start with?

Most of us discussing this here found out this info on our own, seeking it out specifically. Most of us are also "above average" intellectually.

Exactly!

I was trying to follow what my doctor told me to do for years and I was getting bigger and my blood work was getting worse. Cardio and heart healthy grains is what he was preaching.

I show up a year later down 55lbs and ripped and told him I started doing the opposite. I also fired that doctor. He should be preaching weightlifting and more saturated fat.

Now I have an annual fight with my insurance company because of the diet survey I have to fill out and their stupid BMI calculator. I'm consistently between 11% and 13% body fat, with a 31" waist and I'm borderline overweight according to them.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Pull (Post 10418973)
Hey I bought sugar free oatmeal this morning and some artificial sweetener to go with my coffee.

I'm all about getting superserious.

What kind of artificial sweetener? In most cases, artificial sweetener is worse for you than sugar...

htismaqe 02-07-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 10418989)
white rice

arsenic

ShortRoundChief 02-07-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10419007)
What kind of artificial sweetener? In most cases, artificial sweetener is worse for you than sugar...

I knew this was coming so I've prepared a statement defending my artificial sweetner.

um, hum

"short your whore mouth!"

:D

jiveturkey 02-07-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10419009)
arsenic

I am aware. It's more of a concern for the youngers. I'm probably eating white rice once every 2 weeks.

Omaha 02-07-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10418972)
How can the average person make smart, responsible choices when they're not being provided the correct information to start with?

Most of us discussing this here found out this info on our own, seeking it out specifically. Most of us are also "above average" intellectually.

Sure, it's not the easiest thing in the world to do, but it's not impossible. And it's absolutely worth the effort. Anyone who gives a shit about his/her health will make the effort. Most people don't.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 10419006)
Exactly!

I was trying to follow what my doctor told me to do for years and I was getting bigger and my blood work was getting worse. Cardio and heart healthy grains is what he was preaching.

I show up a year later down 55lbs and ripped and told him I started doing the opposite. I also fired that doctor. He should be preaching weightlifting and more saturated fat.

Now I have an annual fight with my insurance company because of the diet survey I have to fill out and their stupid BMI calculator. I'm consistently between 11% and 13% body fat, with a 31" waist and I'm borderline overweight according to them.

My wife has extreme thyroid problems. She tried a variety of medications and eventually settled on trying to treat it naturally.

One of her friends recommended she try eating COCONUT OIL. Yes, that's right. Coconut oil is one of the WORST fats, according to the government, to the point that it was once against the law in many parts of the country.

So my wife did a bunch of research, looked for a good source of natural, organic (can't buy the processed stuff at the store because it doesn't work) coconut oil and started using it to cook and as a food additive.

What do you know? She's feeling better. Her thyroid tests are improving little by little. And the rest of us are feeling better too! The government says that coconut oil, like many other fats, are bad for us.

We since parlayed this into using coconut flour (gluten free since it's not a grain). And again, we've noticed an incremental improvement in our overall health, energy, and general well-being.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 10419024)
Sure, it's not the easiest thing in the world to do, but it's not impossible. And it's absolutely worth the effort. Anyone who gives a shit about his/her health will make the effort. Most people don't.

The problem is that the mainstream sources of this information are either ignorantly misinformed or deliberately false.

A lot of people go directly to their doctor, where they get inaccurate information.

jiveturkey 02-07-2014 11:15 AM

I put coconut oil in my coffee every morning and we occasionally cook with (I prefer duck fat and lard for most cooking though).

It's pure saturated fat (pure evil).

That's good that it's working for her. Does she do a lot of cardio? That can really **** up the lady thyroids.


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