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O.city 10-30-2011 09:20 PM

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As soon as the 9th inning started the other night, this popped into my head.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-30-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8061706)
I'd agree with all of that.

And not that it would ever happen, but there are already sports radio guys who have the plan to make sure #6 happens.

Trade Holliday to the Nationals.

I heard two different guys on two different stations suggest it within an hour of each other on Saturday afternoon.

I don't see anyone taking on his contract.

Why would the Nationals want another overpaid FA OF on the wrong side of 30?

Honestly, if you were to trade Holliday, the place that makes the most sense is Boston, as Crawford is redundant with Ellsbury already there, the fanbase is ready to excoriate him, and he would be an excellent fit in our lineup, provided Tony would let him run.

Otherwise, you could possibly spin Holliday to the Yankees for Nick Swisher, just hoping to rid yourself of the contract.

O.city 10-30-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8061783)
Why would the Nationals want another overpaid FA OF on the wrong side of 30?

Honestly, if you were to trade Holliday, the place that makes the most sense is Boston, as Crawford is redundant with Ellsbury already there, the fanbase is ready to excoriate him, and he would be an excellent fit in our lineup, provided Tony would let him run.

Otherwise, you could possibly spin Holliday to the Yankees for Nick Swisher, just hoping to rid yourself of the contract.

I wouldn't mind bringing Crawford onboard. Want no part of Swisher tho. I actually like Holliday and I think I am a little biased because he has such a terrible WS. Hopefully he was just hurt, as he had a pretty tough year with injuries.

jd1020 10-30-2011 09:35 PM

Holliday has this cool little clause in his contract allowing him to camp out in St. Louis without a care in the world and collect a pay check.

Scott Pilgrim 10-30-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8061759)
Yeah, Garcia just doesn't impress me that much.

:LOL:
Wait... What... He is a 25 year old pitcher who is a two time 13 game winner with a lifetime ERA under 3.3 he is inconsistent at times but he is 25 god damn years old. I would hate to see what you would say of a 25 year old Chris Carpenter or Cliff Lee

BigRedChief 10-30-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8061805)
Holliday has this cool little clause in his contract allowing him to camp out in St. Louis without a care in the world and collect a pay check.

No shit. I'm going to go postal about this trade Holliday talk. :evil:

jd1020 10-30-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8061849)
No shit. I'm going to go postal about this trade Holliday talk. :evil:

I'm used to it. It's been going on on Cubs forums for years with our LF.

Every offseason/trading deadline there's a ****ing flood of stupid "Trade Soriano to X for X."

I guess the only hope one would have is the player would get sick of losing and waive the NTC to be dealt to a team on the verge. But, in Soriano's case, I don't think he gives a shit.

O.city 10-30-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 8061846)
:LOL:
Wait... What... He is a 25 year old pitcher who is a two time 13 game winner with a lifetime ERA under 3.3 he is inconsistent at times but he is 25 god damn years old. I would hate to see what you would say of a 25 year old Chris Carpenter or Cliff Lee

I like his stuff it's just the mental part that scares me a little. But he is only 25 so hopefuly he gets it all straight.

Scott Pilgrim 10-30-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8061783)
Why would the Nationals want another overpaid FA OF on the wrong side of 30?

Honestly, if you were to trade Holliday, the place that makes the most sense is Boston, as Crawford is redundant with Ellsbury already there, the fanbase is ready to excoriate him, and he would be an excellent fit in our lineup, provided Tony would let him run.

Otherwise, you could possibly spin Holliday to the Yankees for Nick Swisher, just hoping to rid yourself of the contract.

ROFLROFLROFL Who in there right mind would want Crawford for Holliday. Crawford signed what could be the worst contract in the history of baseball and you want to bring that here. Crawford has hit over .310 one time (1) Holliday has not hit over .310 three times (3) including his first two seasons. Crawford is Juan Pierre with a better glove while being paid 20 million

Scott Pilgrim 10-30-2011 10:14 PM

Can some please explain to me the Holliday hate. I understand he had a shit World Series, but have we already forgot the LCS were he came up huge? He had dealt with injures most of the season yet still had a higher OBS and OPS then "King" Albert.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-30-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 8061863)
ROFLROFLROFL Who in there right mind would want Crawford for Holliday. Crawford signed what could be the worst contract in the history of baseball and you want to bring that here. Crawford has hit over .310 one time (1) Holliday has not hit over .310 three times (3) including his first two seasons. Crawford is Juan Pierre with a better glove while being paid 20 million

Carl Crawford is a 5-7 WAR player most years, you stupid ****.

Batting average is a stupid ****ing statistic to use, BTW.

O.city 10-30-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pilgrim (Post 8061872)
Can some please explain to me the Holliday hate. I understand he had a shit World Series, but have we already forgot the LCS were he came up huge? He had dealt with injures most of the season yet still had a higher OBS and OPS then "King" Albert.

How the hell did he have such a big LCS? I remember him having a few base hits but thats about it. Not arguing just don't remember.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-30-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8061891)
How the hell did he have such a big LCS? I remember him having a few base hits but thats about it. Not arguing just don't remember.

He didn't. He flipped a routine flyball into the jet stream for a solo homer and had a bunch of seeing eye singles. BFD.

O.city 10-30-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8061892)
He didn't. He flipped a routine flyball into the jet stream for a solo homer and had a bunch of seeing eye singles. BFD.

Thats kinda what I was remembering but wasn't sure.

O.city 10-30-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8061892)
He didn't. He flipped a routine flyball into the jet stream for a solo homer and had a bunch of seeing eye singles. BFD.

I'm still in shock from this whole journey. I grew up a HUGE cardinal fan. Was born in 87 and my first word was Ozzie. I talked to my dad the other day about it, and he was just in shock as well. Said It's been the craziest most nailbiting enjoyable thing he has ever been thru as a fan.


In all honesty it tops the 06 championship in my eyes. And I was at the clinching game in 06.


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