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Frazod 06-30-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9784640)
You haven't heard the story? A refrigerator broke in at 3 in the morning, and he shot that ****er dead.

I hate you. nlm

R8RFAN 06-30-2013 10:56 AM

did the fridge survive?

houstonwhodat 06-30-2013 10:57 AM

Nothing is ninja proof.

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 11:02 AM

I rely on a Kimber 1911.

lewdog 06-30-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9784545)
Simplisafe security system (24.95 monitoring) + Multiple firearms.. Always a gun within hands reach when sleeping...

Free installation with that company?

$25 a month is reasonable.

DaFace 06-30-2013 11:50 AM

I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?

R8RFAN 06-30-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9784725)
Free installation with that company?

$25 a month is reasonable.

You install it yourself, it's wireless and you own it runs off internal cellular and/or home phone... but no home phone is needed...

turn it on and off by your phone
get alerts when it is turned on or off or when it goes off

I love the system, trip the alarm and your phone will be ringing, Don't answer it or give them a wrong password and the cops are on the way

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R8RFAN 06-30-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9784743)
I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?

2....

You are more likely to get in a wreck if you own a car or ride in one too

LiveSteam 06-30-2013 11:57 AM

3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

R8RFAN 06-30-2013 12:03 PM

The main thing you need is a few seconds to prevent a sneak attack

two ways to get into the house (besides windows which you will be able to hear breakage)
Garage and front door...

When my alarm is set in home and away mode I have motion sensors in the garage and plus door sensors.

When I am away at night or go to sleep a door knob security bar is on the front door
http://gallery.drfaulken.com/d/2057-1/IMG_6322.JPG

This will not keep someone from getting in but should slow them down.

Also have a door wedge alarm
http://images.drleonards.com/images/...8170_large.gif

The purpose is to gain a few extra critical seconds.

+ I have a trained attack dog .. No one gets close to the house unannounced when you have a Terrier

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...04580027_n.jpg

Also have a Simplisafe Panic Button installed on backside of headboard, cops are automatically dispatched without a call from the call center
http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/...mplisafe-6.jpg

DaFace 06-30-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9784756)
2....

You are more likely to get in a wreck if you own a car or ride in one too

Well, sure, but the car adds additional value (transportation), while the gun's primary purpose (self preservation) is of questionable benefit in the first place based on the research. Thus, my question about what the logic is.

Your selection of #2 is perfectly valid, though. I can understand that.

Bwana 06-30-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9784743)
I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?

I keep a loaded 12 gauge assault shotgun by my bed. It holds 8 3" Mag rounds but I only keep seven in the gun, There isn't one in the chamber, all I do is give it a pump and that's take care of. I have a very bright flashlight/laser with a finger switch on the gun where you hold your hand when jacking shells in and out. My dirtbag load of choice is number one Buck.

I don't worry about stats. The only stat I worry about is the size of hole I blow through the lowlife that breaks into my house.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 06-30-2013 12:07 PM

I'd wonder what they left me out of pity.

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9784743)
I've got an honest question for all of those who like having a gun around for home defense, and I promise there's no ulterior motive here - I'm just curious about the thought process.

As I've mentioned a couple times in this thread, the stats are pretty clear that you increase the likelihood that you or a family member will be shot just by having a gun in the house (even when controlled for training, storage, etc.). Here's a decent article that discusses all of the possible reasons why if you're interested.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed, I'm a numbers guy, so the stats make it a pretty clear choice for me. But for those who prefer to have a gun around, what's the logic? It seems that any of these are plausible rationalizations:

1. Most people aren't as careful as I am
2. I'd rather go down shooting than be unable to defend myself
3. The studies are wrong/biased/etc.

Am I on track with the above? Are there other reasons I'm not thinking of?


2. I am not a big fan of being at a disadvantage. And even less of a fan of being a victim.

Raiderhater 06-30-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9784772)
Well, sure, but the car adds additional value (transportation), while the gun's primary purpose (self preservation) is of questionable benefit in the first place based on the research. Thus, my question about what the logic is.

Your selection of #2 is perfectly valid, though. I can understand that.


The gun offers the added value of shooting, which many people very much enjoy.


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