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ChiefsOne 12-01-2004 10:23 AM

I'lll take a stand-up guy like Green anyday over a puzzy-azz finger-pointing Grbac.

No comparison IMHO.

milkman 12-01-2004 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod
DAMMIT, CARL!! :cuss:







sheesh, I REALLY hate agreeing with Duh-nese...

Don't we all?

Baby Lee 12-01-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman
So far the only real difference I have read is "Green has intangibles". Green also has a better RB and better OLine. Grbac had a better defense, but that didn't help him directly.

The stats say they are virtually the same. I know that pisses off a lot of people here, but there will be no "intangible" stat 20 years from now to show us the difference.

What I've said from the beginning.
And it'd be different if we had some history of saying "f@ck the SB, we want players with the intangibles." But our history [at least for the past 6-8 years] has been "f@ck everything else, the SB is all that matters."

ChiefsOne 12-01-2004 10:27 AM

I supported Grbac when he was here just because he was the Chiefs QB.

But we have a real leader in Green.

HC_Chief 12-01-2004 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman
So far the only real difference I have read is "Green has intangibles". Green also has a better RB and better OLine. Grbac had a better defense, but that didn't help him directly.

The stats say they are virtually the same. I know that pisses off a lot of people here, but there will be no "intangible" stat 20 years from now to show us the difference.

True enough, but those of us who witnessed both QBs will definitely remember those intangibles. Grbac, the whiner who pointed the finger at everyone but himself versus Green, the charasmatic, who shouldered blame, even when it wasn't necessarily his fault. The latter takes responsibilty for his actions, and as the offensive leader, also takes responsibility for the offensive failures as a whole. :thumb:

I am a huge Trent Green fan. He's a good player with a great attitude. I'd like to have a guy like him on defense.... would make all the difference IMO>

Demonpenz 12-01-2004 10:29 AM

i think because i like Green. It changes my view from "Oh he got lucky" to "Man that was a great throw!" I wonder if anyone else does this

Baby Lee 12-01-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
I am a huge Trent Green fan. He's a good player with a great attitude. I'd like to have a guy like him on defense.... would make all the difference IMO>

We did, his name is Mike Maslowski. Lots of heart, lots of character, making the most of his abilities, never been in an important game.

KCWolfman 12-01-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsOne
I'lll take a stand-up guy like Green anyday over a puzzy-azz finger-pointing Grbac.

No comparison IMHO.

Again, why? Did Grbac have better WR or a better RB? If Green is better than Grbac, why don't his stats indicate thus?

However, I do take umbrage to the author of the article, as I look at the stats, he picked and chose what he wanted to make his comparison. While in KC Grbac had the rating of 79.1, 53.1, 81.7, and 89.9. Green has fared much better with 71.1, 92.6, 93.8, and 93.8.

But overall their careers, their stats are eerily similar.

In KC, Green is the better QB, but over an entire career, there is little difference.

HC_Chief 12-01-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
We did, his name is Mike Maslowski. Lots of heart, lots of character, making the most of his abilities, never been in an important game.

Good point.

Pants 12-01-2004 10:31 AM

Trent = Class Act + Good QB Skills. Remeber that time he stood up for defense when the commissioner was joking about it's performance at some banquet? Grbac would have been laughing with the rest of them...

Wile_E_Coyote 12-01-2004 10:31 AM

Grbac wanted out & nobody really cared for him anyway ( Christmas party, hunting trip) he was a pussy among thugs

Green wants to be here, I can only assume he is wanted here by his teammates

Mr. Laz 12-01-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsOne
I'lll take a stand-up guy like Green anyday over a puzzy-azz finger-pointing Grbac.

No comparison IMHO.

ya, but kinda the point


you LIKE green better personally ... but is he really a better Quarterback?


Vermeil LIKES william bartee, but does that mean we should of resigned him?




the danger of judging a team by the "pretty" chart instead of performance.

Taco John 12-01-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
This thread should have 5 pages by noon.



Noon?

Baby Lee 12-01-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lazarus
ya, but kinda the point


you LIKE green better personally ... but is he really a better Quarterback?


Vermeil LIKES william bartee, but does that mean we should of resigned him?




the danger of judging a team by the "pretty" chart instead of performance.

For further clarity. I make no Green/Bartee comparisons. Green has proven himself capable of quality play. My concerns are that; 1) he hasn't led us to playoff success yet, and 2) he hasn't been put in the forge of having an important game on the line.

Mr. Laz 12-01-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
For further clarity. I make no Green/Bartee comparisons. Green has proven himself capable of quality play. My concerns are that; 1) he hasn't led us to playoff success yet, and 2) he hasn't been put in the forge of having an important game on the line.

i wasn't trying to compare the talent level of bartee/green either


just saying that "like" and "performance" can be too seperate things.


some people complain about Vermeil being to loyal, making decisions about a player on who he "likes"


don't we, the fans, do the same?


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