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Logical 12-29-2005 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch
I'd tell you to just do a search but Kyle and Indiana are still searching for the archive-rosetta-stone in Iraq...
I am pretty sure that only you and KCJohnny were upset at seeing Gunther go, not even Milkman was on that island.

htismaqe 12-29-2005 05:52 AM
Baby Lee (JCJohnny) and Sidewinder (Milkman) were both very vocal about not really wanting Vermeil.

It was just overshadowed by the absolutely over-the-top Ramifization talk...

ChiefFripp 12-29-2005 07:22 AM
DV's clock management drives me batty, I think a Martz season would wind up with me in a looney bin.

MichaelH 12-29-2005 07:32 AM
No, no and no.
I felt the same way about Dick and I feel the same way about Martz. I won't say that they're bad coaches. Both are good to excellent. But Martz will fail to address the defense the same way Dick did. The Chiefs do not need anymore "greatest show on turf" mentality.

chagrin 12-29-2005 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Faulk hasn't been able to play in more than 14 games in a season (including only 11 games in 2003) since the '99-'00 season. So I wouldn't say that is just one injury.

And Martz as a head coach has been to 7 playoff games, with 3 playoff wins and a Super Bowl appearance.

Is there another head coaching possibility that is realistically going to be available this offseason with that proven NFL track record as a head coach?

Not Gregg Williams
Not Bob Stoops
Not Pete Carroll
Not Al Saunders

Obviously we disagree, that's cool. Just remember though, Martz prefers passing and we happen to have 2 of the top 5-7 RB's in the NFL on our team. We saw him shut down his own running game (Marshall or not) for his passing game and dare anyone to say anything and hasn't won a playoff game since that time.

milkman 12-29-2005 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
I am pretty sure that only you and KCJohnny were upset at seeing Gunther go, not even Milkman was on that island.
Yeah, I wasn't upset at all about Gun's departure, but I was adamantly opposed to hiring Dick.

I was on the Marv Lewis bandwagon.

FloridaMan88 09-27-2008 10:45 PM
This thread deserves a bump

boogblaster 09-27-2008 10:52 PM
NO NO NO to MM ..... Who I don't know yet ...

Deberg_1990 09-27-2008 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelH (Post 2925333)
But Martz will fail to address the defense the same way Dick did.
He will?

Martz was the one who brought Lovie Smith to St Louie to turn around the defense. They then went to a Super Bowl.

RealSNR 09-27-2008 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5060139)
This thread deserves a bump
Damn it, where's htismaqe when you need him?

Greater than bad does not equal good you moron

Mecca 09-27-2008 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5060180)
Damn it, where's htismaqe when you need him?

Greater than bad does not equal good you moron
For a long term goal it's not that bad of an idea, you draft your QB, Martz develops him for say 3 years then you move onto another coach while you put better talent on your team.

RealSNR 09-27-2008 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5060183)
For a long term goal it's not that bad of an idea, you draft your QB, Martz develops him for say 3 years then you move onto another coach while you put better talent on your team.
That sounds good in theory, but it's more telling that Martz is way more effective as an assistant than he is as a head coach. He kinda ran off the fumes from Vermeil's team for awhile until it didn't work. Then he built up the Detroit offense, and now it looks like he's doing a great job in SanFran with O'Sullivan. I just don't know what he presents as a head coach though

Deberg_1990 09-27-2008 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5060248)
He kinda ran off the fumes from Vermeil's team for awhile until it didn't work.
He got them back to a Super Bowl.

After the 2000 season, he recognized they were not going to win anything without a defense, so he brought in Lovie Smith.

4th and Long 09-27-2008 11:24 PM
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RealSNR 09-27-2008 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5060260)
He got them back to a Super Bowl.

After the 2000 season, he recognized they were not going to win anything without a defense, so he brought in Lovie Smith.
Because the defense fell apart in 2000, and the Rams became successful again once they got their D back under Smith. I don't really know if that team was better than Vermeil's 1999 team. One, Vermeil's team actually won it. Two, the 2001 team had been in that offense for 3 seasons now. They were bound to be more successful.


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