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Bob Dole 03-26-2006 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
Has Bob Dole installed libdvdcss? Right now Linux can't play region encoded DVD's out of the box because of various BS copyright issues (neither can Windows).

More specifically, it's a bullshit DMCA issue.

Simplex3 03-26-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole
More specifically, it's a bullshit DMCA issue.

Yeah. What he said.

ChiefsLV 03-26-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
1. At least when you have issues it's possible to fix them
2. All of this information is readily available in the user's guide and on the web
3. You didn't do all of this s**t by yourself the first time you used Windows
4. You couldn't mount a non-Windows drive in Windows with or without the help of an expert

...and last but not least...

5. F**K OFF, TROLL

[edit] While we're at it, when was the last time you had Windows, all your drivers, AND all your apps installed and patched in under 3 hours? That's right, NEVER. Feel free to never stop by again.[/edit]


Try one hour at the most. It's a point and click affair instead of having to memorize a bunch of linux commands and type them into a shell. I much prefer it. A super-skilled IT worker like yourself may even be able to do it in less time. There's nothing wrong with preferring Linux over Windows, but trying to push it as an easier install is, to be nice, reaching.

Simplex3 03-26-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsLV
Try one hour at the most. It's a point and click affair instead of having to memorize a bunch of linux commands and type them into a shell. I much prefer it. A super-skilled IT worker like yourself may even be able to do it in less time. There's nothing wrong with preferring Linux over Windows, but trying to push it as an easier install is, to be nice, reaching.

Do you actually believe that line of bulls**t? You can install Windows, Office, Outlook, Photoshop, Nero, etc. AND do all the patches in an hour or less?

ROFL

How many nickles do you have to bet on that one?

As for using the command line, if you would notice the note in the first post I have them use it not because that's the only way to do it, but because that's the only way I can see what they see. It's nice to have that option, which you don't in Windows.

Also, I think we've found out what his problem is. He's trying to make changes to a boot CD version of Linux. Well, you can't very make changes to a read only disk. These issues wouldn't be issues if it were installed on his HDD.

And please, please, please quote the post where I claimed it would be easier.

ChiefsLV 03-26-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
Do you actually believe that line of bulls**t? You can install Windows, Office, Outlook, Photoshop, Nero, etc. AND do all the patches in an hour or less?

ROFL

How many nickles do you have to bet on that one?

As for using the command line, if you would notice the note in the first post I have them us it not because that's the only way to do it, but because that's the only way I can see what they see. It's nice to have that option, which you don't in Windows.

Also, I think we've found out what his problem is. He's trying to make changes to a boot CD version of Linux. Well, you can't very make changes to a read only disk. These issues wouldn't be issues if it were installed on his HDD.

And please, please, please quote the post where I claimed it would be easier.


I can't imagine you've ever been called an ass... :rolleyes: So you admit then that Windows is a much easier install and takes a lot less time to install for the average user?

dirk digler 03-26-2006 11:14 AM

Hey Zach you should have installed VMWare Workstationon your Windows PC and installed Ubuntu on it. That way you wouldn't have lost your stuff. Simplex should have told you that since you're a noob to Linux.

dirk digler 03-26-2006 11:18 AM

Actually all you would have had to do was download and install the free VM player they have a free Ubuntu Virtual Appliance that you can use.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TRY LINUX SHOULD USE VMWARE AND TRY IT OUT FIRST BEFORE YOU GO SCREWING WITH YOUR PC.


http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ubuntu.html

Ubuntu Virtual Appliance
Ubuntu


Virtual Appliance

Ubuntu is a free, open source operating system that starts with the breadth of Debian and adds regular releases (every six months), a clear focus on the user and usability (it should "Just Work", TM) and a commitment to security updates with 18 months of support for every release.
Instructions

1. Download your pre-built Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" Linux Virtual Development Environment.

2. To run this pre-built virtual machine, please choose from the following:
* Download VMware Player. VMware Player is free software that enables PC users to easily run any virtual machine on a Windows or Linux PC.
* Evaluate VMware Workstation, GSX Server, or ESX Server.

Simplex3 03-26-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
Hey Zach you should have installed VMWare Workstationon your Windows PC and installed Ubuntu on it. That way you wouldn't have lost your stuff. Simplex should have told you that since you're a noob to Linux.

You mean the VMWare that costs $189? Didn't seem very practical to recommend that so he could test drive Linux.

I did recommend they use a LiveCD version which wouldn't have to be installed and wouldn't cost him anything.

SLAG 03-26-2006 11:22 AM

Im interested in Trying a Dual boot Solution but I dont think I have enough harddrive space to run an SUSE installation

Simplex3 03-26-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsLV
I can't imagine you've ever been called an ass... :rolleyes: So you admit then that Windows is a much easier install and takes a lot less time to install for the average user?

We already have a thread for this circular argument bulls**t. It's here:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=137919

dirk digler 03-26-2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
You mean the VMWare that costs $189? Didn't seem very practical to recommend that so he could test drive Linux.

I did recommend they use a LiveCD version which wouldn't have to be installed and wouldn't cost him anything.

The VMplayer is free. You can also demo VMWare workstation for 30 days free.

People I implore to use the VMPlayer and try it out before you go dicking with your PC. The best way to try new OS's out is VMWARE.

Simplex3 03-26-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02
Im interested in Trying a Dual boot Solution but I dont think I have enough harddrive space to run an SUSE installation

You can install and operate very nicely in less than 5G of space. How much do you have?

Simplex3 03-26-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
The VMplayer is free. You can also demo VMWare workstation for 30 days free. Nice try.

You can do the LiveCD and never install anything, download any trials, etc. It will also validate your hardware for that distro. Obviously a far inferior solution to yours.

dirk digler 03-26-2006 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
You can do the LiveCD and never install anything, download any trials, etc. It will also validate your hardware for that distro. Obviously a far inferior solution to yours.

It sounds good and they should use it. They need to use something to demo it out before going and screwing up their PC. That is all that I am saying.

The one thing that I like about VMWare Workstation is that you can practice installing it and configuring without messing up your PC. Unless you have an extra PC at your house that you don't care about I would recommend it.

Just my .02 cents.

SLAG 03-26-2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
You can install and operate very nicely in less than 5G of space. How much do you have?


I have about 8 Gigs Free on my Desktop and 4 gigs free on my Laptop

I need a constant 8-10gigs free on my Desktop to use when I edit my home movies and xfer them to DVD- on a tanget what program would emulate NERO VISION or WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER on linux-


I cant download any ISO's til Monday im On Dial up until then


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