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Silock 01-25-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
The fact that it was an orgy sways my opinion quite a bit. If it was a BJ from his girlfriend I would view it as much more benign.

To answer your question, in all honesty, I can say I probably would not have hosted, participated in and videotaped an orgy, especially with a 15 year old. I can tell you when I was 16 there was a 14 year old who had the hots for me and I completely blew her off because of her age.

As I said, maybe I am a prude? :shrug:

What punishment would you suggest for a 17 year old who hosts, participates in and videotapes and orgy with a 15 year old?

My brother in law and his g/f had sex in the same room with his best friend and his best friend's g/f when he was about that age. That's technically an orgy, and while they didn't videotape it, I'm sure he could probably be prosecuted under some law, but he's white, so they don't really care. The fact is, "orgies" happen all the time with younger kids, and while you or I may not like it, it goes on.

There's an even larger question of how ethical it is for us to legislate what someone else finds pleasurable. Even though they're minors, they were still consenting people well within what people consider a "normal" age range difference.

Shit, if I'd been prosecuted for every BJ I got from a freshman or sophomore girl when I was a junior/senior in HS, I'd be in jail for a lot longer than 10 years.

Silock 01-25-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Are most 14-15 year olds in orgies?

Maybe I am just reeeeeeally out of touch. :deevee:

Not "most", but it's definitely not uncommon these days.

Silock 01-25-2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
The kid who brought the video camera should be shot. Anyone who gets busy while they know they are being videotaped is stupid.
Was the bj-giving 15 year old slut white?

It happens.

vailpass 01-25-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar
Now we're shooting kids for poor judgement. Brilliant.

Maybe you should be shot.

I didn't mean that literally, forgive my poor choice of words. My feeling was that if I got sent to the big house for 10 years because some goofy **** felt the need to video tape me getting head I would have some negative feelings towards the dude.

KC Kings 01-25-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
Do you think he should be labeled a "sex offender"?

According to law, yes. It is unfortunate that he is in prison for 10 years, but if I was the DA I wouldn't back down either.

You have a 17 year old punk kid that admits to acting like a cocky star athlete, (even though his coaches said he was good, not great), that plans a party with hard liquor and weed, provides the drugs to a a bunch of young girls then lets a 15 year give him a BJ. He may not be a sexual predator or a pedaphile that deserves 10 years, but he is far from innocent and refuses to take any blame for his actions. The DA even offered him a plea bargan AFTER he was convicted, and he refused it. No matter how ignorant the laws are, what he did broke the law yet he continues to say that he is innocent when there is video evidence proving otherwise.

vailpass 01-25-2007 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock
It happens.

So does prison time.

vailpass 01-25-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock
My brother in law and his g/f had sex in the same room with his best friend and his best friend's g/f when he was about that age. That's technically an orgy, and while they didn't videotape it, I'm sure he could probably be prosecuted under some law, but he's white, so they don't really care. The fact is, "orgies" happen all the time with younger kids, and while you or I may not like it, it goes on.

There's an even larger question of how ethical it is for us to legislate what someone else finds pleasurable. Even though they're minors, they were still consenting people


Society demands higher standards for our children.If you choose to live below those standards that is your choice but we will prosecute those who do so in order to protect our own.

Bowser 01-25-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings
According to law, yes. It is unfortunate that he is in prison for 10 years, but if I was the DA I wouldn't back down either.

You have a 17 year old punk kid that admits to acting like a cocky star athlete, (even though his coaches said he was good, not great), that plans a party with hard liquor and weed, provides the drugs to a a bunch of young girls then lets a 15 year give him a BJ. He may not be a sexual predator or a pedaphile that deserves 10 years, but he is far from innocent and refuses to take any blame for his actions. The DA even offered him a plea bargan AFTER he was convicted, and he refused it. No matter how ignorant the laws are, what he did broke the law yet he continues to say that he is innocent when there is video evidence proving otherwise.

So this isn't about him getting blown by a 15 year old, it's about him being a "cocky star athlete".

What makes it even a bigger crock of shit, is that some 19 year old kid out of school can come in and get blown by a 17 year old junior, and be about his merry way. Bottom line, Georgia needs to update their laws and let this kid give up his seat to a real criminal.

HemiEd 01-25-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru
too much to read.

We need cliff notes, where is Simplex3?

Swanman 01-25-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
Society demands higher standards for our children.If you choose to live below those standards that is your choice but we will prosecute those who do so in order to protect our own.

Society demands laws that are not completely and utterly reeruned. There are armed robbers, violent rapists and pedophiles probably getting less than 10 years for crimes that are 1,000 times worse. It just doesn't add up. Sure, the kid did something very stupid, but nowhere near 10 years of hard time stupid.

Silock 01-25-2007 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
So does prison time.

So does a lot of things... not really sure where you're going with that.

Silock 01-25-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass
Society demands higher standards for our children.If you choose to live below those standards that is your choice but we will prosecute those who do so in order to protect our own.

Protect your own from . . . consenting sexual behavior? Is that REALLY what you're suggesting?

Perhaps the practices of two married people should be regulated, you know, to protect your own.

Lono 01-25-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
When we are young, a small disparity in age can be huge in terms of development (both physical and mental). As we mature the disparity between ages is diminished. A majority of the time, 20 is closer to 23 than 15 is to 17 as far as maturity.

Maybe I am a prude, but knowing the circumstances of the event has definitely altered my view of Genarlow. When I first heard of the story, I (mistakenly) assumed he received the BJ from a girlfriend. The article in the original post indicates that was not the case. These kids held and videotaped an orgy with 15 year olds. IMO, that is deviant behavior. Again, I don't think this guy deserves 10 years in jail but he earned some jail time and the sex offender label.


Your a tool. If you think this kid deserves even one damn day of jail time then you better open up about 100 more prisons cause I guarantee this crap happens every day.

vailpass 01-25-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman
Society demands laws that are not completely and utterly reeruned. There are armed robbers, violent rapists and pedophiles probably getting less than 10 years for crimes that are 1,000 times worse. It just doesn't add up. Sure, the kid did something very stupid, but nowhere near 10 years of hard time stupid.

Yeah, I agree completely. You may have missed my point, sorry I wasn't more clear.

Mr. Laz 01-25-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
, but he earned some jail time and the sex offender label, IMO.

the girl went to his school and was only 2 years younger than him.

he was a senior ... she was a sophomore


How in the hell does that deserve a "sex offense" label?




dam ... juniors and seniors at my high school used to hit on sophomores all the time. :(


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