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Reerun_KC 02-06-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
Link?


K give me a few, I am at work, so it will take a bit..

I will head over to Jetsnation and get some info...

Brock 02-06-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
K give me a few, I am at work, so it will take a bit..

I will head over to Jetsnation and get some info...

If all you can come up with is blather from a jets board, don't bother.

Reerun_KC 02-06-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock
If all you can come up with is blather from a jets board, don't bother.


Nope but that is a good place to start for links and info.... Besides, they know more about the fuqtard than we do....

HonestChieffan 02-06-2007 02:49 PM

I prefer Smokey Links

Reerun_KC 02-06-2007 03:18 PM

Oh boy, here comes the foot in mouth for myself! I hate to admit it, but I was wrong....

From a Mod at Jets Nation.

The bottom line was this -- Herm was not going to be fired. He had been working on the K.C. plan for months. Once the Jets realized that is what he wanted they knew they couldn't bring him back. Getting a 4th rounder for him (Leon
Washington) was a nice surprise.

But there is a lot of hate in Jet Nation over Herm's tenure. He said one thing and did another and it left a bad taste behind.

FringeNC 02-06-2007 03:24 PM

Herm Edwards was not going to have his contract extended by the Jets...whether you want to call that a firing or not....?

Reerun_KC 02-06-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Herm Edwards was not going to have his contract extended by the Jets...whether you want to call that a firing or not....?


Regardless, I thought the media and everyone was saying wasnt going to be coaching at NYJ the next year, then Carl comes in on his White Stud Horse and rescues theSavior from futher embarrasment..

But maybe I was wrong?

Dr. Van Halen 02-06-2007 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
Same problem with Carl that every Chiefs fan has, He is only worried about the butts in the seats and not the product on the field.

AAAARRRRRGGGGH!

Peterson wants to win a championship.

Peterson is not just concerned with the bottom line/butts in seats, etc.

Peterson is an average GM who has made some very good decisions and some very bad decisions. He made great decisions in the early '90's. He made some horrible decisions in the late '90's. It's too early to say how he's done in the past five years.

Please, the media keeps spouting this mantra about Peterson because they personally and professionally have problems with him. He is at times rude and aggressive, and seems to consider the media to be a pain in his arse.

He has taken personal shots at Kietzman, Harry, and many others who routinely and vociferously complain about him and claim he only cares about the bottom line.

Any time I hear anyone on this board saying that Peterson doesn't care about what happens on the field I assume that the poster is an 810 employee or is a mindless drone of an 810 employee.

Fish 02-06-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
Regardless, I thought the media and everyone was saying wasnt going to be coaching at NYJ the next year, then Carl comes in on his White Stud Horse and rescues theSavior from futher embarrasment..

But maybe I was wrong?

And you tell others here that they are drinking kool-aid?? I think you might still have your head plunged into that giant vat of green kool-aid that the Jets trolls tried to drag on to the planet....

Chiefnj 02-06-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
Regardless, I thought the media and everyone was saying wasnt going to be coaching at NYJ the next year, then Carl comes in on his White Stud Horse and rescues theSavior from futher embarrasment..

But maybe I was wrong?

He wasn't going to coach the next year because everyone knew KC wanted him and he wanted out of NY. The Chiefs are very lucky tampering charges were never filed.

HonestChieffan 02-06-2007 04:45 PM

In corporate world Herm was not being fired, he was part of a right sizing.

|Zach| 02-06-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan
In corporate world Herm was not being fired, he was part of a right sizing.

He did everything in 1 year that the previous worker did in his whole tenure.

Seems like a smart company would keep him on.

Luzap 02-06-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28
I know this is all reiterations but some need the reminder obviously...

No Roaf, no RT, an aged Will Shields, no T-Rich, no DT's above average, no Priest Holmes\LJ combo, no Saunders, rookie OC that had head in ass syndrome, injured starting QB for 8 weeks out of the gate..

result:
9-7 record and playoff appearance.
Defense went from 31 to 16
Offense dropped from 1 - 16


Given everything he had to work with I would say the drop in offense was to be expected.

Could we have made some better decisions? Sure
Is there room for improvment? Most definitely
Did we do better than what most would expect given the situation? Yes

So before you send Herm down the river I would say you have to ask yourself what might of happened with a real LT and FB offensively?

petegz28, I really like your post. I haven't read all the replies, but there may be some giving you crap about it...

Don't worry, you're just 30 days ahead of most peole's thinking :)
I really believe that the next two years can be exciting for us. I also believe that Herm is a good coach. What I know is that only time will tell.

Luz
willing to give the time and enjoy the journey...

Luzap 02-06-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen
AAAARRRRRGGGGH!

Peterson wants to win a championship.

Peterson is not just concerned with the bottom line/butts in seats, etc.

Peterson is an average GM who has made some very good decisions and some very bad decisions. He made great decisions in the early '90's. He made some horrible decisions in the late '90's. It's too early to say how he's done in the past five years.

Please, the media keeps spouting this mantra about Peterson because they personally and professionally have problems with him. He is at times rude and aggressive, and seems to consider the media to be a pain in his arse.

He has taken personal shots at Kietzman, Harry, and many others who routinely and vociferously complain about him and claim he only cares about the bottom line.

Any time I hear anyone on this board saying that Peterson doesn't care about what happens on the field I assume that the poster is an 810 employee or is a mindless drone of an 810 employee.

Luz
:clap:

Bearcat 02-06-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
It's funny how it's all Herm supposedly improving our defense, but blameless in the collapse of our offense.


Totally agree... it's always about the talent lost on offense, but not the talent & experience gained on defense.


Either way, it's mediocrity, and I agree that the schedule made us look better than we were. We won 7 of 9 because of who we played, and the conservative/defensive style will keep us in just about every game.

Until someone, anyone, wins a playoff game...


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