I've been a Skins Fan just as long as I've been a Bolts fan.

Who the hell did the Skins ever have when Norv was the Head Coach?

Lets see...Gus Frerotte, Trent Green, Heath Shuler, Brad Johnson

What about the Raiders? Kerry Collins.

Maybe it was the players, not the coach.

It is not like he didn't have enough time to straighten out the Redskins.

In seven seasons with the Redskins, he went 49-59-1

He didnt have the players. Its not like he was the GM too.

He had 7 freaking seasons and only went to the playoffs once. Are you telling me he had 0 input on personnel? You know that is BS.

Even if he did, its not like he has to build up the personnel on this team. The keys are already in the ignition here. All he has to do is coach, not bring in anybody.

So there is two of you? My BIL is a Skin's/Raider's fan. Fortunately there are not many tall bridges in Wichita.

I forgot to mention that I've always been about 1000x more a Chargers fan than a Skins fan.

Well he has sucked at that as well. Just face it he is a horrible head coach. Marty is a million times better.

Amen to that.

Hey dirk, how did Marty do in Washington himself?

Well he started off slow 0-5 or something like that but he turned it around and ended up 8-8 in his 1st year until he got fired and replaced by Spurrier.

Alot of the players were pissed too when they fired him because he was finally winning the players over.

He got canned after winning 8 of his last 11 games, with a train-wreck of a team.

It shows that you cant win without the talent, and we definitely have the Talent here in SD.

So its okay to overlook the first 5 games?

Coaches don't get any time to turn things around?