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eazyb81 03-27-2007 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Alot of stay at home moms go on and have successful careers after child-rearing, it is not uncommon. The need for workers is large enough at this juncture that it is not really an issue IMO.

Besides, homemakers do more than "change diapers" all day.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule. But for the most part, I think we can agree that any person's career would be side-tracked a bit by taking multiple years off from working, unless they were a teacher or something similar.

Again, if this isn't important to you, that's fine, but other people may have greater career aspirations.

eazyb81 03-27-2007 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
You still haven't answered if you even have a dog in this fight or if you're just blowing smoke out of your ass.

If you're asking if I have kids, no I don't. I guess that must mean i'm "blowing smoke out of my ass".


:rolleyes:

Simplex3 03-27-2007 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81
Again, if this isn't important to you, that's fine, but other people may have greater career aspirations.

Great. So don't have kids. Kids need to be your #1 priority.

Once again, though: Your career won't be of any comfort to you when you're dying. It won't stop by and give you a hug. It won't honor you when you're gone. It won't remember you and tell future generations of careers about you.

Your money won't stop by, either.

Simplex3 03-27-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81
If you're asking if I have kids, no I don't. I guess that must mean i'm "blowing smoke out of my ass".


:rolleyes:

Are you even dating anyone seriously?

My guess is you're under 25 and have never even been engaged. It's just a guess, though.

crazycoffey 03-27-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81
If you're asking if I have kids, no I don't. I guess that must mean i'm "blowing smoke out of my ass".


:rolleyes:


yes it does, it's like a white man saying he knows what it's like to be a black man.

a man saying he knows what a woman feels like.

you don't have the frame of reference to logically make an educated statement on this matter, so shut it.

You think you know, so you want to keep yapping away like you know everything, but until you see a small version of you - you will not know. You can't. It is really that simple.

sorry if you don't like that, but it is the truth.

crazycoffey 03-27-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
Great. So don't have kids. Kids need to be your #1 priority.

Once again, though: Your career won't be of any comfort to you when you're dying. It won't stop by and give you a hug. It won't honor you when you're gone. It won't remember you and tell future generations of careers about you.

Your money won't stop by, either.


:clap::clap:
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Mile High Mania 03-27-2007 09:32 AM

Just as a point of reference for my comment, I'm 36 and my wife is 37. We were married when we were 29 and she always said "I'd like to be home with the kids when we have them". I didn't really comprehend the financial aspect of that when I was in my 20's. I couldn't fathom the notion of us having kids and only me bringing in the money, plus at the time she had a kick ass corporate job.

Well, flash forward to 2001 when my wife was pregnant... she was laid off from that great job. I was doing well and given her condition, getting another job wasn't an option at that point. She took a shot at a career that allowed her to work from home on a very part time basis.

It was tight early on (6-7 months), but she has been able to build a nice career and a solid income while staying at home with the kids as they multiplied like gremlins from 1 to 3.

I wouldn't change any of it and with both of us working from home, we haven't missed any of the "firsts" even though they've spent some time at day care.

Again, it's all about the balancing act and what works best for you.

If you're in a situation where both parents work and you're considering or currently putting your kids through full time day care. I would ask that you do that math of what day care (and everything associated) is costing you compared to what the lowest income earning parent is generating.

Is the cost of day care full time nearly equal to or more than that other income? If it is... then it may be best to stay at home with the kids. A few of my friends made that decision with their wives.

Hell, I'd love to be a stay at home dad and never work again. But, it's not because it's easy... raising kids is hard work.

Mile High Mania 03-27-2007 09:36 AM

Ok - if you're single, in your 20's and you have no kids... then yeah, while you may have some insight through the experience of others... you really don't have a good clue as to the reality of this scenario.

As I mentioned, in my 20's ... my view was much different. I'm in my late 30s and realize that there is no cookie cutter solution, but there's nothing my kids love more than having mom and dad around all the time.

I travel some, but with both of us at home with them the bulk of the time... I love it.

It's a sensitive topic and for someone that isn't facing the situation to have such strong convictions one way or the other... it's a bit odd and out of place.

People change - my wife had great career aspirations, but life happened and she found a new career while raising a family and she's never been happier.

NewChief 03-27-2007 09:38 AM

So far what I've learned from this thread:

If you put your kids in daycare, you shouldn't have had kids.

If you put your kids in daycare, you're an inferior parent who only cares about material success.

If you put your kids in daycare, you're basically a self-serving piece of shit.

Those who don't put their kids in daycare are basically better human beings.

ROFL

Some sweet generalities on this thread.

crazycoffey 03-27-2007 09:38 AM

I'm in agreement with a donk fan......


dammit the world is coming to an end. :p

crazycoffey 03-27-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
Some sweet generalities on this thread.




you need to stop reading with your eyes closed.....

Simplex3 03-27-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
...as they multiplied like gremlins from 1 to 3.

LMAO

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
Hell, I'd love to be a stay at home dad and never work again. But, it's not because it's easy... raising kids is hard work.

Amen to that.

Mile High Mania 03-27-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
So far what I've learned from this thread:

If you put your kids in daycare, you shouldn't have had kids.

If you put your kids in daycare, you're an inferior parent who only cares about material success.

If you put your kids in daycare, you're basically a self-serving piece of shit.

Those who don't put their kids in daycare are basically better human beings.

ROFL

Some sweet generalities on this thread.

Solid selective reading on your part.

Simplex3 03-27-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
Solid selective reading on your part.

He's a liberal, what do you expect?

:evil:

Mile High Mania 03-27-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
I'm in agreement with a donk fan......


dammit the world is coming to an end. :p

Nah, just means you're getting wiser.


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