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Brock 06-10-2008 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4788198)
\And if you ever post something like this again..........
Yes?

BigRedChief 06-10-2008 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4788021)
I got rid of my tickets after 2003. It just got so damn predictable after 20 years.
I think a lot of hard core fans have moved on. Its just a sad thing. :shake:

007 06-10-2008 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4788200)
You haven't made it by the tailgate since....wasn't it Dafaces last game before he left to go work with Rainman? You, Daface, Guru, Slag? Am I remembering that correctly?

Are you actually going to make it out to a game this year? If so which one and I'll have the tailgate set up and invite the Planet to the party.
Unless something changes, I will be stopping by at the home opener.

Bowser 06-10-2008 05:14 PM
I'LL NEVER SEE MY COOLER AGAIN!!!


We came this >< close to not getting tix this year, but went ahead and splurged. Even if the Chiefs do start to turn around, it's starting to get to the point where it's hard to justify the cost anymore (OK, it's past that point, but you know what I mean). It's a hell of a lot easier to go spend 75-100 bucks at your favorite sports bar than the hundreds that get spent every Sunday when you factor in tix, food, parking, and beverages (plus no cleanup of gear later). It may well come to the point where we go just to tailgate a couple of games, and stay in the parking lot the whole time.

Bowser 06-10-2008 05:17 PM
And I think we'll make a point to come have a couple of pops with you at the opener, BRC, if not just throw in with you guys and make a big(ger) bash of it. Sounds like you have a number of Planeteers coming by.

Bowser 06-10-2008 05:25 PM
And I've killed the thread.

BigRedChief 06-10-2008 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4788254)
I'LL NEVER SEE MY COOLER AGAIN!!!


We came this >< close to not getting tix this year, but went ahead and splurged. Even if the Chiefs do start to turn around, it's starting to get to the point where it's hard to justify the cost anymore (OK, it's past that point, but you know what I mean). It's a hell of a lot easier to go spend 75-100 bucks at your favorite sports bar than the hundreds that get spent every Sunday when you factor in tix, food, parking, and beverages (plus no cleanup of gear later). It may well come to the point where we go just to tailgate a couple of games, and stay in the parking lot the whole time.
I still have that cooler.

Nzoner 06-10-2008 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4788254)
I'LL NEVER SEE MY COOLER AGAIN!!!


We came this >< close to not getting tix this year, but went ahead and splurged. Even if the Chiefs do start to turn around, it's starting to get to the point where it's hard to justify the cost anymore (OK, it's past that point, but you know what I mean). It's a hell of a lot easier to go spend 75-100 bucks at your favorite sports bar than the hundreds that get spent every Sunday when you factor in tix, food, parking, and beverages (plus no cleanup of gear later). It may well come to the point where we go just to tailgate a couple of games, and stay in the parking lot the whole time.
I took my season ticket money and invested it in additional fantasy football leagues.I get to see quality football because I'm watching all the games and so far I've parlayed it into additional cash winnings so I'm far and ahead then when I was going to Arrowhead. :)

Bearcat 06-10-2008 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 4787655)
Not saying Herm is Bill by any means, but to say a coach can't improve because of prior coaching record is just silly.

Not to completely hijack, but in order to improve, you have to be willing to change. Not just change players and playcalling, but change philosophies so you can get ahead of the curve and have a distinct advantage over the competition.

Herm hasn't updated his philosophy to match the '80s much less get ahead of today's curve. Maybe Bill was the same way when he was with Cleveland, but I don't see Herm changing the way he sees the game. IMO, he'll always be a coach that keeps both teams in the game, because of his philosophy that the most you can possibly do is have a chance to win at the end. It's the 50/50 philosophy, which doesn't work when you want to win more than one or two playoff games.[/hijack]

Reerun_KC 06-10-2008 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 4788303)
Not to completely hijack, but in order to improve, you have to be willing to change. Not just change players and playcalling, but change philosophies so you can get ahead of the curve and have a distinct advantage over the competition.

Herm hasn't updated his philosophy to match the '80s much less get ahead of today's curve. Maybe Bill was the same way when he was with Cleveland, but I don't see Herm changing the way he sees the game. IMO, he'll always be a coach that keeps both teams in the game, because of his philosophy that the most you can possibly do is have a chance to win at the end. It's the 50/50 philosophy, which doesn't work when you want to win more than one or two playoff games.[/hijack]

KC Fish, Big Daddy Bearcat summed it up very nicely...

Herm will always be the square peg in the round hole...

teedubya 06-10-2008 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 4788155)
Instead of just throwing smilies you could attempt to address the post.

How can anyone possibly blame Herm? He didn't make Roaf retire. He didn't crack Green on the noggin. Solari wasn't his choice. He didn't decide to try and squeeze one more year out of Welbourn, Turley and Wiegmann. He didn't injure Bennett, forcing Larry to take 416 carries. He didn't tear out Kennison's hamstring.

He did bring us Bowe, however.

Herm got stuck with crap talent on offense. If we're still stuck in the 20's two years from now I'll start blaming him for the offense.

HERM WARFARE!!1

Sully 06-10-2008 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 4787655)
Absolutely.

I hate to see Herm come to this team and try to change things, only to become the focus of fan frustration that built up for years and years before Herm was ever a part of the franchise. The guy isn't a rocket surgeon by any means, but he's trying a different approach other than what hasn't worked for the last decade.

And fans continue to point to his time with the Jets as justification for future suckatude... like people remember Belichick's record before he came to NE and changed that franchise. Not saying Herm is Bill by any means, but to say a coach can't improve because of prior coaching record is just silly.

Bill Belichick

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And this isn't saying anything towards BRC's choice to cancel his ST status. Statements like his are absolutely necessary for the future of the franchise. But to turn his ST decision into Herm bashing is unwarranted IMO.
I'm just finishing a book about Belichick that is amazing. The problem with simply looking at his record in Cleveland and NE early is it completely ignores the man's history, as well as the circumstances surrounding his years in Cleveland.
Belichick's entire life was a buildup to him being a great coach, including years and years of toiling for nearly no money building his resume and his knowledge of the game. Herm didn't even want to coach before he was begged to come work by Dungy. He wanted to scout. So far, it seems he would've been great at that job. As a coach, he may improve, but up till now, no one is impressed.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-10-2008 08:07 PM
This offense was headed down the shitter no matter who took over. Terrible drafts left this team with absolute crap depth wise on the offensive side of the ball. Once Roaf and Shields left and Trent's brain got scrambled this offense was doomed.

DaFace 06-10-2008 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 4788200)
You haven't made it by the tailgate since....wasn't it Dafaces last game before he left to go work with Rainman? You, Daface, Guru, Slag? Am I remembering that correctly?

Are you actually going to make it out to a game this year? If so which one and I'll have the tailgate set up and invite the Planet to the party.
Damn...you've got a good memory!

BigRedChief 06-10-2008 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 4788426)
Damn...you've got a good memory!
Nahhhh.....We ran out of jaggerbombs early.:)


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