You shouldn't comment about stuff you know nothing about. Welker isn't a #2 receiver. He's a slot receiver. His bread-and-butter is getting underneath the coverages or taking a short outside hitch route and stretching it for a lot of YAC. He would NOT compete with Dwayne Bowe, who is more of a traditional #2 WR. Bowe would compete with Jabar Gaffney, and he would easily win that job.

As for your second comment, you are proving your idiocy every day by first discrediting Tom Brady and then discrediting Bill Bellichick. I hate them both, but they are the best QB and coach in the game... period. And even your own fellow Broncos fans will call you out for being an idiot on that point. It occurs to me that Charlie Weis received a ton of credit for tutoring Tom Brady. Then he goes to Notre Dame, and suddenly, he has no idea how to run an offense. Isn't it interesting that three of Bellichick's coaches have gone on to another team and failed (Weis, Mangini, Crennel). Tells you a lot about how good Bellichick is, doesn't it.

Based on potential, yes. But Moreno has to play to a high level to actually outperform Forte. Because that's the point that's being made here.

The original argument was that Orton would be far more successful in Denver because he has Moreno as opposed to Forte. Most people are arguing that, if Moreno is better at all, it wouldn't be by much. It's not like we're talking about Moreno replacing Kolby Smith as the starter. The argument wasn't about who we'd rather have as a long-term RB option. If we're talking about how they perform right now, I think it's fairly close to a wash.

That's funny, because if Cutler is elite, than why do you keep insisting that losing him was no big deal?

Lawyered.

everytime i read 'kyle orton is for real', i think of all the times i have watched him play. and then i chuckle.

Elway was the only QB in the history of the NFL who could single-handedly carry teams to wins. If the rookies we drafted are good, we are a much better team with Orton than we were with Cutler.

TD: "The ****?"

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sport...errell0514.jpg

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Did you see what he had around him in Chicago? First off... The offensive line he played with is one of the 5 worst in the league. I have never seen a team pick up a blitz worse than the Bears. Their right tackle last year was worse than ANY offensive lineman on your team last year, he can't hold a block for more than 1 second. He gave up 17 more sacks than the Broncos ENTIRE offensive line did last year.

Their receivers can't beat one on one coverage, they don't make plays on the ball, and they can't catch. Pathetic WR core.

The play calling is HORRIBLE. It was like watching a Herm coached team. Run, Run, Pass, Punt (repeat)

Elway only had TD for the last 4 years of his career.

The only time he was Superbowl Champion.

Just say'n.

No QB has went to more Super Bowl's than John Elway did.

Just say'n.

He didn't single handedly win shit until he had an elite RB.

No worries though, if I was you I would be talking about Elway as well. Your QB is Kyle Orton and you are going through the most embarrassing off season a franchise has ever had.

:bong:The dope in Denver must be really good.

The first (win) he had little to do with. The 2nd he put on a show. The other Superbowls he took teams that had no business being there to begin with. I remember the 55 to 10 beat down against the 49ers. I said at the time had Montana and Elway switched teams it would have been a larger blowout and I still think so today. This guy is obviously a blind homer but Elway is still the best QB I have ever seen. I hated him and cussed him but he could flat out play.

Nobody is saying Elway isn't a great QB. However having a "good season" with a lesser doesn't really mean all that much. You could have said the same about Montana taking the Chiefs to AFC Championship with JJ ****ing Birden.

It took an elite RB to really win the big thing. There is no shame in that.