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Pioli Zombie 07-07-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 5885742)
I'd give a nod to The Rolling Stones

What a joke. For one thing the Stones haven't introduced one original thing in 35 years so let's just keep it to the parallel years when they both were at their zenith. In the Stones best era, when Brian Jones wasn't crocked and was heavily influencing the music they were very good. But please. You can't compare the musical productivity, the change in styles, the influence on the culture. Again check out a song like Yer Blues or She's so Heavy. The Beatles could do the Stones. The Stones could never match Sgt Pepper, Revolver, Rubber Soul. Jaggars vocals couldn't compare. The musicianship, with the exception of Jones, could compare.

Not that I have an opinion.....;)
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Ebolapox 07-07-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 5885752)
The question was Greatest Impact-Elvis was the "KIng" of R @R-he influenced tons of bands-including the beatles, U2, Scorpions, not to mention country and Gospel artist. That is a pretty Big impact.

The Beatles sold a ton of records and If they stayed together-could have probably doubled that. So finacial impact would go to them.

But since they were huge Elvis fans-should he not get the credit for influencing them??

Oh yeah he had lots more movies than the Beatle did too-lol

common theme? every movie that both the beatles and elvis did was cheesy and pretty much sucked :p

Halfcan 07-07-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan (Post 5885724)
Rush is a pretty ****ing good band. They'll be remembered, but just not as one of the biggies.

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Best Musicians of All Time-hands down.

Halfcan 07-07-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5885776)
common theme? every movie that both the beatles and elvis did was cheesy and pretty much sucked :p

My point was-that Elvis sold a shit load of movie tickets-and every movie had a Soundtrack that went Gold or better.

Take a tour of Graceland and see the Wall of Gold-then tell me the Beatles were bigger.

Pioli Zombie 07-07-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 5885777)
Best Musicians of All Time-hands down.

Let me guess. You're about 38 or younger.
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Ebolapox 07-07-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5885783)
Let me guess. You're about 38 or younger.
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eh, my dad is 52. he loves rush.

Nzoner 07-07-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 5885777)
Best Musicians of All Time-hands down.

I'd say great but best of all time :shake:

Halfcan 07-07-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 5885785)
I'd say great but best of all time :shake:

As voted on by Other Musicians.

Neil just won Best drummer AGAIN. Geddy has won it multiple times as well as Alex.

How many Best musician awards has Ringo won-lol

Baby Lee 07-07-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 5885816)
As voted on by Other Musicians.

Neil just won Best drummer AGAIN. Geddy has won it multiple times as well as Alex.

How many Best musician awards has Ringo won-lol

There's great musicians, then there's great music. I'd place Rush around the same level as Yes and a level below Styx and Jethro Tull. Certainly not in the circle of all time greats.

RJ 07-07-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5885731)
it's kinda sad. I can't really think of any artists from 1900-1945 other than robert johnson and a few blues and/or a few jazz guys.


Woody Guthrie, Hank Williams, Andrews Sisters, Judy Garland.....to name a few.

Hank and Woody would fall in the category of timeless music. Your Cheatin' Heart is as classic as classic gets.

RJ 07-07-2009 06:27 PM

Rush fans are a strange breed, totally devoted to their band and totally convinced of their musical genius and unsurpassed virtuosity. For me it is all pretentious noise, I can't watch Spinal Tap without hearing Rush.

But to each his own, there is plenty of music/art/literature, etc, that I like and others don't. I'm a big Tom Waits fan. Many find that puzzling.

Baby Lee 07-07-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5885837)
Woody Guthrie, Hank Williams, Andrews Sisters, Judy Garland.....to name a few.

Hank and Woody would fall in the category of timeless music. Your Cheatin' Heart is as classic as classic gets.

Perhaps one of my five favorite albums of all time

Check out the tracks, start with Ramblin' Round.

http://www.amazon.com/Tribute-Woody-.../dp/B000002LJG

Mr. Flopnuts 07-07-2009 06:37 PM

Rush has been playing and consistently putting out new music for around 35 years. They're already most of the way there. Love them or hate them, you can't deny their world wide following. They have arguably the greatest drummer of all time, and if not the greatest bassist, one who pioneered and ushered in the rest in the group. For a 3 man band, they are amazing and simply 1 of a kind.

All of that said, I don't know if they'll be remembered 50 years from now. But I wouldn't blame them for that at all.

RJ 07-07-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5885848)
Perhaps one of my five favorite albums of all time

Check out the tracks, start with Ramblin' Round.

http://www.amazon.com/Tribute-Woody-.../dp/B000002LJG


You know how we all have music that takes us back to a certain place and time in our past? What's cool about Woody Guthrie and Hank Williams is that they take me back to a time and place where I've never even been. Yet, despite never having been there, the music makes me feel like I can see and feel the places they were.

FAX 07-07-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5885733)
They're each important in their own manner. Elvis was the pioneer, the Beatles were the best, and most innovative, musicians, Michael resuscitated a moribund industry.

The place one before the other is akin to comparing Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein. Would Einstein have made the breakthroughs he made if he had to invent calculus first?

There's a heck of a lot of truthiness in this statement.

Still, you begin from where you are at the time, Mr. Baby Lee. It's fair to say that, had the Beatles not been inspired by Elvis, rock-a-billy, and up-tempo blues, they might have been inspired by someone or something else and we might be listening to a whole lot more accordion duos on satellite radio. It doesn't necessarily mean that their impact would be any less ... just very different.

Although Elvis was hugely important to the emergence and wide, cultural acceptance of "rock & roll", to me, the breadth and depth of the Beatles' influence - not to mention the lasting appeal of their songs - gives them the nod. And it shouldn't even be close.

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