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'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6344093)
Pioli is tied to Pioli

Cassel is a liability, and the equation will shift to a point where it is a positive for Pioli to move on him, to demonstrate his own resolve and competence...same with Haley...

Pioli, like it or not, gets a second chance at a coach and QB...he'll be forced to do something unless a god damn miracle happens next year

As BRC has said, Pioli's contract is payable in full on the day he gets shitcanned. He's probably here at least 5-7 years.

Any chance he catches a stray .40 slug during a hit @ Garozzo's?

dirk digler 12-13-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6344104)
So...did Cassel just complete the single worst two game stretch for any QB in Chiefs history? Honest question, just a guess.

If he continues to shit the bed in the final 3 games, certainly it will force Pioli's hand to do something, right? Anything?

Don't know about the stretch but Cassel is the starter next year so everybody better get used to that.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6344106)
If Haley is still here, I really don't think they'll draft him if they think he has any character/motivation issues. But we'll see.

I'm kinda thinking fourth dimensionally with Cody. If they do take him, they are satisfied with his character, and they will get him in shape to play all three downs. But maybe not.

I still think we need a mad dog, killer type or two on this defense.

DeezNutz 12-13-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6344108)
No way he could play any worse then Tyler Thigpen.

Statistically speaking, were these the worst two consecutive games?

And he's already worse than Thigpen. This isn't damn near not even arguable.

Titty Meat 12-13-2009 07:34 PM

Pioli shouldn't be fired yet anyway. He gets 3 seasons.

Titty Meat 12-13-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6344114)
Statistically speaking, were these the worst two consecutive games?

And he's already worse than Thigpen. This isn't damn near not even arguable.

They put Thigpen 10 yards back where he wouldn't get touched. Cassel isn't worse then Thigpen as Cassel A. Has won more games. B. Was able to come from behind and actually play a good 4th Quarter.

Hammock Parties 12-13-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6344114)
Statistically speaking, were these the worst two consecutive games?

Thigpen never had a 14.6 and 34.5 back to back. Not even close. I bet Kenney did.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-13-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6344115)
Pioli shouldn't be fired yet anyway. He gets 3 seasons.

He'll get no less than 5-7 regardless of whether the fans like it, or not. He gets up to .500 and he'll be here for a decade.

I'm not saying I want him gone, I don't. It's time to continue what's been started regardless of the results. We can't just scrap it on the heap again, and again. But let's be clear as to what Clark is going to do.

tk13 12-13-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6344113)
I still think we need a mad dog, killer type or two on this defense.

Yeah, we do, but we need a lot of things. Honestly I think I'd just as soon have a pass rushing LB first over the NT or the playmaking safety. But there is no "create-a-player" feature, yet.

DeezNutz 12-13-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6344122)
Thigpen never had a 14.6 and 34.5 back to back. Not even close. I bet Kenney did.

We need to dig through the archives and find out this information. By "we" of course, I mean you. Or someone other than me.

Hammock Parties 12-13-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6344132)
We need to dig through the archives and find out this information. By "we" of course, I mean you. Or someone other than me.

It was Kenney, unless Deberg turned in some shitty ass QBing.

Kenny was in the 20s back to back to start the 1988 season. ROFL

the Talking Can 12-13-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6344110)
As BRC has said, Pioli's contract is payable in full on the day he gets shitcanned. He's probably here at least 5-7 years.

Any chance he catches a stray .40 slug during a hit @ Garozzo's?

look, I hear you

i'm just discussing the mechanics of it....at some point Pioli will "gain" more credit for dumping Cassel than the criticism he takes for admitting a huge failure...plus, the possibility of getting it right the 2nd time which would be a get out of jail free card

And to be real cynical, if he drafts rookie QB now he's automatically bought himself 3 years....and he can go get a new coach as well, just reset the whole damn thing

Titty Meat 12-13-2009 07:38 PM

Just move back to the 4-3 and draft the house of spears

DeezNutz 12-13-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6344137)
It was Kenney, unless Deberg turned in some shitty ass QBing.

Kenny was in the 20s back to back to start the 1988 season. ROFL

Yep. Kenney juxtaposed games with a 20.2 and a 26.8 rating in two games in '88.

So, Cassel is safe...for now. But he has 3 games left, so...

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-13-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6343950)
I'm just not a big fan.

As Hamas said, he has a decent arm, decent accuracy, but shit leadership. I really want a franchise guy, but he's not it either.

Good God THIS. No more ****ing compromises. 30+years is QUITE enough. If we see a Stafford come up the ranks, we give the ENTIRE ****ing house and the blood of our first-born to get him, and we develop him PROPERLY.
We do NOT throw his ass out to the wolves, and we let Cassel or his replacement equivalent take the piss-pounding.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6344069)
Scott Pioli is a ****ing moron. Don't ever forget that.

LMAO

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6344080)
I predict I "mother****" at least half the draft picks.

Can we look forward to another Epic "Mother**** YOU Scott Pioli"-thread?:D

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6344110)
As BRC has said, Pioli's contract is payable in full on the day he gets shitcanned. He's probably here at least 5-7 years.

Any chance he catches a stray .40 slug during a hit @ Garozzo's?

Let's just say patrons will be fishing Pioli out of their Chicken Spanini for weeks.


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