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DeezNutz 09-16-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7010340)
How many times during the DV years we would roll up 500 yards of offense and lose to a team that only had 200 or less....

Off the top of my head, I'd guess 0. You think the 32 Defense earned its name by allowing too many sub-200-yard games?

We weren't getting beat on ST and defensive TDs, elements that, by the way, were critical in last Monday's win.

beach tribe 09-16-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 7010321)
How about just giving him at least 15 carries a game?

He got 11 last. Exact same as Thomas Jones and don't forget that Castille got some touches.

There's just no justifying that.



But there IS justification.
I have no problem with giving 11 carries to a guy who had SHOULDER SURGERY in the off-season in his first game back.

Between 15-20 carries a game sounds great for now.

Not trying to sound like a dick. Just making a point.

PunkinDrublic 09-16-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7010320)
Dude... I see you've never thrown a wet football... That's one of the hardest things to do accurately, Let alone catch one.

Hence the drop by Nanee on the 3rd and long play he had to jump for Rivers floated a tad high from the wet ball.

Bowe's drop wasn't because of wet ball... that ball hit him hard as shit on the back shoulder. He should've caught it. Bad concentration not a slipped ball tho.

Like I said... we get our asses handed to us and Rivers possibly has 400 yds passing that game.



What a bunch of speculative bullshit. There's a world of difference between conditions when it's wet while raining and wet while it's not raining. When it's wet and not raining you can dry off the ball between plays.

DeezNutz 09-16-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7010341)
So KC becomes more talented in the rain and SD becomes less talented in the rain?

Both teams play under the same conditions right?

Before it started pouring it was 7-7 correct?

Had KC lost a close one in those conditions and people here blamed it on the rain it would be blood bath.

I'm not going to place a lot of confidence in the regularity of ST TDs and defensive plays that lead almost directly to points.

This game, in many ways, reminds me of the Ravens game from last year. Only this time, we won. Should be interesting to see how we build on this. If we can stop the run in CLE, for example, we should win.

beach tribe 09-16-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7010320)
Dude... I see you've never thrown a wet football... That's one of the hardest things to do accurately, Let alone catch one.

Hence the drop by Nanee on the 3rd and long play he had to jump for Rivers floated a tad high from the wet ball.

Bowe's drop wasn't because of wet ball... that ball hit him hard as shit on the back shoulder. He should've caught it. Bad concentration not a slipped ball tho.

Like I said... we get our asses handed to us and Rivers possibly has 400 yds passing that game.

Actually I played 22 games at QB in HS.
More speculation is not helping you.

Marcellus 09-16-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7010352)
I'm not going to place a lot of confidence in the regularity of ST TDs and defensive plays that lead almost directly to points.

This game, in many ways, reminds me of the Ravens game from last year. Only this time, we won. Should be interesting to see how we build on this. If we can stop the run in CLE, for example, we should win.

I agree. We need to win road games against shit teams to say we are really improving.

Thank God I don't have to wait until 9:15 Monday night to see what happens.

HemiEd 09-16-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7010320)
Bowe's drop wasn't because of wet ball... that ball hit him hard as shit on the back shoulder. He should've caught it. Bad concentration not a slipped ball tho.

I find it interesting, that you consider that Bowe's fault.

It looked un-catchable, by anything less than a circus catch to me. All three balls thrown to him that I remember, were that way.

He caught one, that was down very low, but the other two, he would have needed to be double jointed, throughout his body IMO.

Or maybe I am just full of shit, and am down on Cassel, but I don't recall him hitting anyone on the numbers, or in their wheel house.

Reerun_KC 09-16-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7010346)
Off the top of my head, I'd guess 0. You think the 32 Defense earned its name by allowing too many sub-200-yard games?

We weren't getting beat on ST and defensive TDs, elements that, by the way, were critical in last Monday's win.

I think there were times that it happened... I would have to go back and get my "links" and "facts" straight...

But is seems that even thought he 32 Defense sucked your pussy most of the time. There were times when we rolled up serious yards and the other team didnt, and still beat us...

Regardless, We won, some people are happy, many are not...

beach tribe 09-16-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7010320)
Dude... I see you've never thrown a wet football... That's one of the hardest things to do accurately, Let alone catch one.

Hence the drop by Nanee on the 3rd and long play he had to jump for Rivers floated a tad high from the wet ball.

Bowe's drop wasn't because of wet ball... that ball hit him hard as shit on the back shoulder. He should've caught it. Bad concentration not a slipped ball tho.

Like I said... we get our asses handed to us and Rivers possibly has 400 yds passing that game.

lol. I thought you were talkin to me. Sorry.

beach tribe 09-16-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7010361)
I find it interesting, that you consider that Bowe's fault.

It looked un-catchable, by anything less than a circus catch to me. All three balls thrown to him that I remember, were that way.

He caught one, that was down very low, but the other two, he would have needed to be double jointed, throughout his body IMO.

Or maybe I am just full of shit, and am down on Cassel, but I don't recall him hitting anyone on the numbers, or in their wheel house.

It wasn't the greatest throw that bounced off his shoulder, but he should have caught it.

Frazod 09-16-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7010361)
I find it interesting, that you consider that Bowe's fault.

It looked un-catchable, by anything less than a circus catch to me. All three balls thrown to him that I remember, were that way.

He caught one, that was down very low, but the other two, he would have needed to be double jointed, throughout his body IMO.

Or maybe I am just full of shit, and am down on Cassel, but I don't recall him hitting anyone on the numbers, or in their wheel house.

I don't remember who it was, but he hit one receiver right in the numbers - the back numbers - because the receiver didn't turn around.

Other than that.....

CupidStunt 09-16-2010 01:13 PM

Much as you can't count on ST to completely dominate, you can expect the defense to continue to improve all year. Against a far worse offense, they could be productive. You also expect the passing game to be a lot better, even if it'll never look great.

And I still wouldn't rule out more big returns. Most teams can block OK, but few if any have the type of returners (plural) we have. Look at the first MNF game: we saw two reasonably unathletic SAFETIES returning punts. Arenas and McCluster in space against any special teams guy in the league is a mismatch. Get them a block or two and it's lights out.

Anyway, this is just Whitlock being bitter. If the new regime granted him all-access to the inner workings of One Arrowhead Drive, he'd be swinging from Pioli's nuts and hyping KC up in his little articles.

HemiEd 09-16-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7010371)
I don't remember who it was, but he hit one receiver right in the numbers - the back numbers - because the receiver didn't turn around.

Other than that.....

That receiver was probably still engaged at the line. :D


Oh wait, that can't be, because he holds on to the ball until he gets sacked. :banghead:

Frazod 09-16-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7010379)
That receiver was probably still engaged at the line. :D


Oh wait, that can't be, because he holds on to the ball until he gets sacked. :banghead:

IIRC the receiver was about 10-15 yards downfield along the right sideline. At the time, I remember thinking that it was probably the best pass he'd throw all night, and it was.

I'd go back and watch it again, but much like the ewok scenes in Return of the Jedi, I prefer to fast forward through the annoying parts of our games where the offense is on the field. Luckily, this can be accomplished very quickly.

Reerun_KC 09-16-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7010389)
IIRC the receiver was about 10-15 yards downfield along the right sideline. At the time, I remember thinking that it was probably the best pass he'd throw all night, and it was.

I'd go back and watch it again, but much like the ewok scenes in Return of the Jedi, I prefer to fast forward through the annoying parts of our games where the offense is on the field. Luckily, this can be accomplished very quickly.

did you just discover VHS?


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