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DeezNutz 07-23-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7766353)
In 2009, Cassel was a 4 on a scale of 1-10.

Last year, I think he improved to a 7.

If he shows the ability to improve to a 8, we will return to the playoffs and make some noise when we get there.

By 4, I assume you mean 44 (out of 46). He was ****ing trash.

Last year, however, showed that he deserves more time and the benefit of the doubt...for now.

BossChief 07-23-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7766484)
I disagree in the sense that you should be trying for a QB "every" year, not "every couple of years."

Guys like Stanzi don't get grace periods. They show something or they get the **** out.

What does "guys like Stanzi don't get grace periods" mean?

You think that if a rookie qb doesn't light up preseason, the team should immediately move on?

Quarterbacks take time and this class hasn't had the benefit of coaching throughout the offseason.

Not trying to make any excuses...I think Ricky will be able to step in and move the offense, but will also make some mistakes...just asking for a bit of clarification.

Chris Meck 07-23-2011 04:56 PM

you've got to have three, right? Might as well.

DeezNutz 07-23-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7766503)
What does "guys like Stanzi don't get grace periods" mean?

It means late-round roster filler, which he is.

I'd hope, and assume, that he's better suited than Croyle to serve as a backup. But the window for 5th-round picks is (and should be) considerably smaller.

There's a reason why he was a day-three selection.

DeezNutz 07-23-2011 04:59 PM

And "show something" does not equal "light it up."

lcarus 07-23-2011 05:02 PM

Derrick Johnson ahead of Brandon Flowers? Nah..

Mr. Laz 07-23-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7766484)
I disagree in the sense that you should be trying for a QB "every" year, not "every couple of years."

Guys like Stanzi don't get grace periods. They show something or they get the **** out.

yea, i know but imo sometimes it takes more than 1 season to evaluate a QB.

just say this: As soon as your coaches don't think you have "the guy" then you just move on and draft another. No time limit.

DeezNutz 07-23-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7766522)
just say this: As soon as your coaches don't think you have "the guy" then you just move on and draft another. No time limit.

Agree completely.

BossChief 07-23-2011 05:09 PM

Id be fine with it of they brought in a vet to play backup this year...in fact, I think we must do so.

I'm not saying he deserves a 4 year pass here, just that he shouldn't really be judged one way or another based on his preseason play this year (assuming there is one and recent reports are accurate)

That would be shortsighted.

He is a player that will get better with time.

I totally agree that we should continue to turn over stones till we have a solid group of quarterbacks.

Obviously, I have a lot more faith in Stanzi than 99% of the planet because I have followed his progress over the last three years.

milkman 07-23-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7766321)
how so?

How many comeback wins was given he credit for when it was his stupid interceptions that were directly, or indirectly, responsible for the need to comeback?

How many games did he fail to lead the Pack to a win when it was his interceptions that put his team in position to lose?

Most of his playoff games through his career are interception fests, and he's had a couple in which he's actually played pretty well, but has made boneheaded interceptions that lost games for the Pack.

Quesadilla Joe 07-23-2011 05:18 PM

The media are just a bunch of what have you done for me lately assholes.... Elvis Dumervil has been getting shafted on all kinds of these lists. There is no way Tamba Hali should be higher than him, let alone 20+ spots higher. DOOM and Hali were both drafted in 06 and DOOM has more career sacks than Hali, DESPITE missing an entire season and playing the whole 2008 season with a broken bone in his hand.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-23-2011 05:22 PM

DOOM is now a gimp (just like that certain WR from Georgia Tech), so down the list he goes.

Gadzooks 07-23-2011 05:41 PM

Why wasn't Stanzi on the list?!? He should have been at least 40 spots ahead of Tebow.

MagicHef 07-23-2011 05:50 PM

BossChief- how do you feel about Ryan Harris not being on this list?

Reaper16 07-23-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 7766617)
Why wasn't Stanzi on the list?!? He should have been at least 40 spots ahead of Tebow.

He is 40 spots ahead of Tebow, but Bill Williamson just didn't bother posting players #94 through #134.


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