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Never disappoints...

And what if that elite QB becomes good? It can go the other way too.

We screw up the season and get Luck he becomes a great quarterback and he takes this team to the promised land.

here is the way I see it, we go 9-7 this year. Okay, we make the playoffs,again, win the division and lose again in the first round. Last year happens all over again and Cassel ****s up. I guarantee you, people will rant and rave about how much he sucks and dream about having that elite QB. So what difference does it make if we go 9-7 lose in the first round(we went nowhere, no SB) or 5-11(same thing, went nowhere, no SB, BUT increase our chances of landing a top QB prospect). Id rather take the 5-11 and increase my chances of landing the top QB prospect IF it betters our chances of going to the bowl in the future, why not?

*you draft elite QBs in the first. most of the time anyway. The Tom Bradys are rare. I know everybody here HOPES Stanzi becomes that guy. But why not draft a QB in the first? If that guy becomes good, and Stanzi becomes good the qb position becomes even more solidified. Then what will people say?:D

Id ****ing cry if that happened

In your world, you cant play the "what if" game...

The difference is, you have ass for lips, and shit for brains

LMAO

I have been very mum on him for a while.

I put faith in him from the start when we first got him. I was looking to see improvements from him as the years went on. I was excited when we hired Weis last year because I thought he would develop Cassel's game. I was still excited when we hired Zorn and had hope in Cassel. BUT, after watching him this preseason, I know its preseason but the guy still makes the same mistakes.

His field vision didn't improve.

His footwork and mechanics are off.

What else? His pocket presence is bad. He panics against the rush and lacks poise. He stares down his receivers and forces throws. His arm strength sucks. so does his accuracy.

All these things have just carried over from the past till now. And, no improvement. Im just convinced he is what he is.

And lets fact it, the guy is a project, okay. His whole career he has been a backup. At USC, in the NFL with Pats, but except for us. And I think, that is where he belongs as a backup. You just don't win with backup QBs. Unless, you have a GREAT GREAAT defense and a heck of a good running game.

you know what Cassel is good for?

Being on that kinda team. Greaat defense and running game. just keep it simple. Don't make mistakes. don't cause any turnovers or lose us games. Let the rest of the team win it for us.

I want a QB that can win us games. He is not that guy.

eat sh*t, choke on it and die.

but you are? so why are you telling me that?

You is a bitch

What do you give a franchise that hasn't won a playoff game since 1994?

An undeveloped low-ceiling backup QB. Duh. Everybody knows that.

If we have to be the dead last team in the NFL to get the #1 pick to get a possible elite QB, then **** an elite QB. We could do what good franchises do, and find a good QB in the draft and mold him into an elite QB by surrounding him with good players. Ben Roethlisberger was the 11th pick. Drew Brees was taken at the very end of the 2nd round. Aaron Rodgers was taken at the end of the 1st round. Tom Brady...we all know where he was taken. Flacco was taken 18th. Out of all the good quarterbacks in the league right now, only what...Manning and Vick were taken first overall? I'm just saying....we should do the best with what we've got and if our front office is worth their salt they will find their QB wherever we land in the draft.

A fan base that has all the right answers on how to build a SuperBowl team...

I was watching flight 93 the other night, and I was hoping they would kill one of the terrorists before the plane hit the ground. I ALWAYS root for my team, even if it is the last game in a non playoff year. Dumb thread.

Well we sure know how NOT to win a Super Bowl. The fans of this team have seen a lot since we last won a playoff game. We've had an elite defense, elite offense, great RBs, bad kickers, great kick returners, conservative head coaches, non conservative head coaches, coaches who don't know their asshole from their elbow. And yet through all of the last 17 years, the closest we ever got to the Super Bowl trophy was when we had an elite QB. Even at the very end of his career, Joe almost got us there. That was a well balanced team. Good running game, good solid defense, and a QB that can win the game for you at the last minute. That's what you need to win a Super Bowl.

Haha. Yeah. Right.

Listen, none of us have the right answers. All I know is we tried one solution for Super Bowl success back in 1983 and it didn't work out. So we went in the opposite direction and tried that for awhile. It hasn't worked. At. All.

It's time to give drafting a QB in the 1st round another shot. It's been 28 goddamn years.