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milkman 09-14-2011 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7909184)
Holy Christ, who are the 9 below him?

McNabb and who else?
That's the thing about Cassel, though.

He puts up numbers that don't always look as bad as he actually plays.

This is why I always say that stats mean jack.

What I really mean is that without the context of seeing things as they are played out, stats don't provide any true insight.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7909184)
Holy Christ, who are the 9 below him?

McNabb and who else?
Hasselbeck
Bradford
McNabb
Dalton
Orton
Roethlisberger
Sanchez
Gradkowski
Romo
Collins

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7909182)
Was he plus or minus?
Barely positive. See, I'm guessing dumping the ball off for 3 yards isn't a negative play.

Some of those other quarterbacks were turning it over more, so that's going to bring their grade down.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2011 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7909188)
That's the thing about Cassel, though.

He puts up numbers that don't always look as bad as he actually plays.

This is why I always say that stats mean jack.

What I really mean is that without the context of seeing things as they are played out, stats don't provide any true insight.
Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.

DeezNutz 09-14-2011 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7909194)
Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
No shit? Wow.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-14-2011 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7909194)
Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
Nonsense, I had him graded perfectly with my Casseldometer. Swing passes rack up teh bonus points.

milkman 09-14-2011 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7909194)
Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
Yet, what was it?, 9 QBs graded out lower than Matt Cassel.

I mean, just from the games I saw, did Romo and Sanchez play worse than did Matt Cassel?

Three7s 09-14-2011 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7909191)
Hasselbeck
Bradford
McNabb
Dalton
Orton
Roethlisberger
Sanchez
Gradkowski
Romo
Collins



Barely positive. See, I'm guessing dumping the ball off for 3 yards isn't a negative play.

Some of those other quarterbacks were turning it over more, so that's going to bring their grade down.
I don't know if I'd put Roethlisberger below him. He's overrated, but better that Cassel.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 7909205)
I don't know if I'd put Roethlisberger below him. He's overrated, but better that Cassel.
:facepalm:

This is based on one game. Big Ben turned it over 5 times so of course his grade is lower.

Brock 09-14-2011 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 7909205)
I don't know if I'd put Roethlisberger below him. He's overrated, but better that Cassel.
That's just based on Sunday's game.

milkman 09-14-2011 05:35 PM
When I look at Andy Dalton's numbers, I wonder how he grades out lower than Matt Cassel?

Three7s 09-14-2011 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7909215)
When I look at Andy Dalton's numbers, I wonder how he grades out lower than Matt Cassel?
That's why I thought it was overall.

Still, my bad.

Deberg_1990 09-14-2011 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7909204)
Yet, what was it?, 9 QBs graded out lower than Matt Cassel.

I mean, just from the games I saw, did Romo and Sanchez play worse than did Matt Cassel?
Not sure what the criteria used to grade was? But no way those two played worse than cassel. They made mistakes, but they also made plays to keep their team in the game.
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Hammock Parties 09-14-2011 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7909249)
Not sure what the criteria used to grade was? But no way those two played worse than cassel. They made mistakes, but they also made plays to keep their team in the game.
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It's all about turnovers.

Apparently the grading system only takes into account what happens on the field.

When Cassel wakes up in the morning and decides to get out of bed he lowers the chance of his team winning games.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2011 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7909256)
It's all about turnovers.

Apparently the grading system only takes into account what happens on the field.

When Cassel wakes up in the morning and decides to get out of bed he lowers the chance of his team winning games.
Well, it's still ****ed then.

Both Romo and Sanchez threw for over 300 yards and had a 1:1 TD:Turnover ratio just like Cassel.

But the guy who threw for over 200 FEWER yards is graded higher?

I've lost all respect for PFF.

SAUTO 09-14-2011 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7909277)
Well, it's still ****ed then.

Both Romo and Sanchez threw for over 300 yards and had a 1:1 TD:Turnover ratio just like Cassel.

But the guy who threw for over 200 FEWER yards is graded higher?

I've lost all respect for PFF.
Yet milkman guessed those two. Why?

But I agree cassel has regressed and has been the suk for at least seven games. Since the last oakland game
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