tanking doesn't exist bro

teams don't tank in the NFL

head coaches are paid to win games, not care about draft position

every win is pointless if you don't win the Super Bowl

so for the drafturbators it's 0-16 or Super Bowl...those are the only two acceptable outcomes

teams don't play to lose...Herm got that right

people need to get over that

I have never once asked the Chiefs players or coaches to tank. No one has. Hoping the team loses in a lost season does not equal wanting the team to tank. They are completely discrete entities.

I'd actually like the Chiefs to play very well and lose in absolutely flukish fashion, precisely the opposite of what happened in Chicago and SD.

To trade up for Luck is impossible. Indy is making that pick. He's dead to me.

The trade up to RG3 is even more unlikely now. I'm all for making that move to get him but realistically, I don't see it happening. We're too far away.

Unless the Chiefs get in the Manning Sweepstakes, I suppose our only option now is to roll with Orton. If you can sign him to a 2 year deal? Fine. But he'll want more. I'd franchise him for 1 year (yes it's overpaying) and draft a QB next year high if there's not a guy they like in this year's draft.

This is also false.

Teams have to learn how to compete, there is no doubt, but without a QB you aren't going to be able to compete. If we were fortunate enough to start a rookie QB, I'd fight tooth and nail for every win in a 4-12 or 5-11 season, no matter its impact on draft position. But until we get that QB, we're stuck in neutral.

well if Orton plays like he did against Green Bay I see no reason why he can't be a winning QB...and I see no reason why he can't start next year and still draft a QB in an early round.

Looking forward to seeing what he does against Oakland.

I get the idea... but I guess I just didn't think anybody was going to trade out of RG III. He's too dynamic of a player. I still think there's a chance he would've jumped Barkley. There are personnel people who like RG III over Luck. That might have something to do with this decision today.

And the flipside is, if you want to trade up that badly, you'll get it done. When the Jets wanted Sanchez or the Falcons wanted Julio Jones, they got it done. Of course there's no guarantee, but this whole thing is us playing around in fantasy land anyway.

I'm just happy I have something to watch for...

Those Palko weeks were the least watchable Chiefs games in the history of me being a fan.

My thoughts exactly.

Additionally - if he continues to progress at USC next season like he did this season, he'll be next year's Andrew Luck.

Barkley has serious momentum right now.

Or he could end up Leinerting himself.

I'd have gone, but he's evidently willing to gamble on himself and there's something to be said for that. The good news is that this really did appear to be a shallow QB class at the top anyway. Maybe his addition to next year's draft pool will help us more than being in this year's pool would have.

If he could play like he did last week, we'd have our franchise QB. He had over a 100 rating.

But we know that's not who he is. Kyle is a hot/cold guy. He's good for a 3 Int day sooner or later.

He's okay for now. And better than Cassel for sure. But not the answer.

All I know is that looking at the remaining QB's on the board to draft, and the free agent class available, when some of your top options to probably hit the market are going to be Kyle Orton and David Garrard and Jason Campbell, the GM's who have Matt Flynn and Ryan Mallet on their roster probably became a lot more attractive to QB needy teams...

19 points against the worst defense in football is hardly something to write home about. If he gets credit for all his yards and the win, then he needs to the one that you pin the lack of effective scoring on.

Why would anyone want Manning? Old, hurt, and same old same old.

My suspicion is that they aren't really the worst defense in football. When your offense is always giving you an enormous lead, I suspect you're giving up lots of yards due to catchup football and due to playing a "let them take 10 plays to get downfield when you're ahead by 28" type of prevent.