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kcpasco 01-09-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8278475)
This

I've heard ESPN commentary saying "Look how the Chiefs played them. blah, blah, blah."

Not once did I hear one of them say "Most teams can't play that style of defense because they don't have the personnel the the Chiefs to do pull off such a scheme."

Just a little recognition for how good Carr & Flowers are would have been nice.

Ya I'm loving our corners. There is only a handful of receivers in the league I wouldn't trust them playing man. Calvin Johnson comes to mind.

vailpass 01-09-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8278475)
This

I've heard ESPN commentary saying "Look how the Chiefs played them. blah, blah, blah."

Not once did I hear one of them say "Most teams can't play that style of defense because they don't have the personnel the the Chiefs to do pull off such a scheme."

Just a little recognition for how good Carr & Flowers are would have been nice.

LMAO Somebody love me

Kerberos 01-09-2012 10:20 AM

Let it be known that I F***ing despise the Broncos and Tebow just as much... BUT I fear for the AFC West that with a long off season and "Horse Face" working with Jesus that it may make him a LEGIT force for the Donks for the foreseeable future. I may be WAY OFF on this but the kid keeps coming back when everyone thinks he is done.

Garcia Bronco 01-09-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 8278689)
Let it be known that I F***ing despise the Broncos and Tebow just as much... BUT I fear for the AFC West that with a long off season and "Horse Face" working with Jesus that it may make him a LEGIT force for the Donks for the foreseeable future. I may be WAY OFF on this but the kid keeps coming back when everyone thinks he is done.

He's like Lazarus of Bethany

BigCatDaddy 01-09-2012 10:28 AM

Worst QB eva!

lcarus 01-09-2012 10:29 AM

Tebow is, when he's at his best, easy to root for and good enough to win close games. He has a ton of heart and can come through in the clutch.

The problem with Tebow is, when he's at his worst, he's been really really bad. Like...worst QB I've ever seen bad. He'll lose 2 games and look poor in the process, but then he'll turn around and win a big game (even if he plays poorly for most of the game) and all will be forgotten by most. Winning hides deficiencies.

That's just this year though. I honestly don't know if he will improve as a passer in the future or what.

HemiEd 01-09-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8277497)
I like Tebow, just not as a QB.

I don't see how anybody could not like him, and I am starting to think Roger Goodell and the NFL REALLY like him.

Maybe the Chiefs should draft Collin Klein if he comes out?:p

Kerberos 01-09-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8278723)
Tebow is, when he's at his best, easy to root for and good enough to win close games. He has a ton of heart and can come through in the clutch.

The problem with Tebow is, when he's at his worst, he's been really really bad. Like...worst QB I've ever seen bad. He'll lose 2 games and look poor in the process, but then he'll turn around and win a big game (even if he plays poorly for most of the game) and all will be forgotten by most. Winning hides deficiencies.

That's just this year though. I honestly don't know if he will improve as a passer in the future or what.

He has LESS than a year of starts under his belt. I hope you are right...I REALLY DO. It pains me to think that he is better than that... but the kid has been a winner at every level he has played at since grade school. That is hard to dismiss when he beat Pittsburg (A beat up Pittsburg team albeit) but he beat them nonetheless.

Chiefnj2 01-09-2012 10:39 AM

If you can rush the passer with your front 4, you'll always have a good chance of winning a game.

I'd love it if Tebow could beat Belichick.

InChiefsHeaven 01-09-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 8278737)
He has LESS than a year of starts under his belt. I hope you are right...I REALLY DO. It pains me to think that he is better than that... but the kid has been a winner at every level he has played at since grade school. That is hard to dismiss when he beat Pittsburg (A beat up Pittsburg team albeit) but he beat them nonetheless.

Yep. Shit:

Playoff Wins

Tebow - 1

All Chiefs QB's since Tebow was 7 years old - 0

...yech...

lcarus 01-09-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 8278737)
He has LESS than a year of starts under his belt. I hope you are right...I REALLY DO. It pains me to think that he is better than that... but the kid has been a winner at every level he has played at since grade school. That is hard to dismiss when he beat Pittsburg (A beat up Pittsburg team albeit) but he beat them nonetheless.

At the same time, Palko almost beat Pittsburgh as well. I'm not bashing Tebow today, but it's hard to say he'll be able to be a big winner in this league consistently when I doubt he'll ever be even close to the QB that Rodgers, Brees, or Brady is. You don't HAVE to be as good as those guys to win in this league, but your odds of winning a title with one of those elite QBs are a lot better.

So Denver should ride Tebow for all he's worth, but if they ever had a shot at grabbing a QB that could be on par with the elite guys (like Luck) you'd have to think they'd dump Tebow in a heartbeat.

Kerberos 01-09-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8278727)
I don't see how anybody could not like him, and I am starting to think Roger Goodell and the NFL REALLY like him.

Maybe the Chiefs should draft Collin Klein if he comes out?:p

Klein is a stud.... he is not the same size as Tebow though IIRC?

Running through a college defense isn't the same as being sandwiched between James Harrison and Brett Keisel from the Steelers. Klein also doesn't have Jesus looking over him does he?

Chiefnj2 01-09-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8278782)
At the same time, Palko almost beat Pittsburgh as well. .

Didn't Palko turn the ball over 4 times? He didn't almost beat anything.

jcroft 01-09-2012 11:48 AM

Neither poll option works. He was a large part of Denver's success this year, but he still has no real future as an NFL QB.

YourMult 01-09-2012 11:53 AM

Shebow is the worst 1st string NFL QB I have ever seen.


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