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Brock 02-28-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8406002)
I think the point to be made is that Eli and Luck would at least be a head-to-head for the #1 pick. RGIII would not even come close to competing with either of those guys.

He has come close to competing with either one of those guys. He's the #2 pick. that's pretty damn close.

aturnis 02-28-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8406081)
He has come close to competing with either one of those guys. He's the #2 pick. that's pretty damn close.

I think he could top Eli. Reality is though, it's not a fair fight. He's not only competing with the player, but the "legend" they have become. Eli for his obvious name recognition, and Luck for what he has done. Also, there is a stigma attached to a QB who can run, even if you like that, it will scare you a little.

BossChief 02-28-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8405824)
So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.

I would feel like we FINALLY took the correct FIRST STEP.

IMO, the only situation I like better is Manning + Tannehill.

WhiteWhale 02-28-2012 07:51 PM

Ummm... Based on Shanahan's close relationship with Fisher?

Are they insinuating that there will be collusion? You don't get ahead by cutting your buddies good deals. IF the skins get the pick, they'll have to put out the best offer.

Buckweath 02-28-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8406100)
I would feel like we FINALLY took the correct FIRST STEP.

IMO, the only situation I like better is Manning + Tannehill.

I really don't see the Chiefs signing Manning and then drafting Tannehill. If you're going to get Manning, you have to give him the best supporting cast RIGHT NOW, which means drafting a Trent Richardson or an Olineman in the first round this year.

notorious 02-28-2012 08:00 PM

I think we should just play it safe and use our picks to upgrade our weak positions and build depth.

Trading picks for an unproven QB is stupid. You should only use picks to trade for proven veterans.

It has worked great in the past, so why wouldn't it work again?

Chief_For_Life58 02-28-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8405824)
So my question is......what would be the feeling about Pioli if he:

1. Let Carr walk.
2. Franchised Bowe
3. Traded Bowe, our 1st this year and a 1st next year for RGIII.

the thig is is that the rams wouldnt even want to go for that. why pay dbowe when they can draft blackman.
there is no way we get rg3. hes awesome. Id love to see him in a chiefs jersey but there is no way hes playing for us next year. 3 other teams have much more to offer the rams then us.

DeezNutz 02-28-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8406143)
the thig is is that the rams wouldnt even want to go for that. why pay dbowe when they can draft blackman.
there is no way we get rg3. hes awesome. Id love to see him in a chiefs jersey but there is no way hes playing for us next year. 3 other teams have much more to offer the rams then us.

Because they would know exactly what they have in Bowe, who is a front-line WR, despite what some on CP try to suggest.

VAChief 02-28-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8405718)
KC would have to give up the entire draft to get RGIII. There isn't a player worth that much...and it truly is a gamble.

You can count KC out of the RGIII sweepstakes. There is just no way Pioli would be willing to give that much up and rightly so.
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You are discounting who is drafting, I would trade our whole 2009 draft for Matthew Stafford. The big draft day busts have been primarily RB's. That is foolish, someone you think is a franchise QB is worth considering particularly if you have a young team that you can patch holes through free agency. You aren't going to get a franchise QB in free agency.

Epic Fail 007 02-28-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8405946)

But they did not trade the entire draft,think.

VAChief 02-28-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8406143)
the thig is is that the rams wouldnt even want to go for that. why pay dbowe when they can draft blackman.
there is no way we get rg3. hes awesome. Id love to see him in a chiefs jersey but there is no way hes playing for us next year. 3 other teams have much more to offer the rams then us.

It doesn't hurt to ask, throw the whole draft at them. If they don't bite, nothing lost. If they do, you immediately energize your fan base and hopefully your team. If we had the history of solid mid round drafting successes recently it would different, but for the most part we are hit or miss on rounds 1, 2, and 3 as it is...even if RGIII flops, it doesn't set us much further back than we already are. I don't think it would be enough to give up our whole draft, just that it shouldn't be discounted as an option to offer.

MahiMike 02-28-2012 08:15 PM

Peyton is better and cheaper!

DeezNutz 02-28-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 8406173)
Peyton is better and cheaper!

That's only because the neck is extra.

BossChief 02-28-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8405973)
No idea how that relates to Baldwin, who has shown precious little in KC, other than a great catch that was called back.

As for Jackson/Sanchez, it could be that TJ ends up being the better of these two. However, once Pioli made the move to Cassel, I think the selection should have been Raji, and it should have been a no-brainer.

last year:

Tyson Jackson > BJ Raji

Doesn't excuse him from missing on guys like Orakpo, though.

DeezNutz 02-28-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8406185)
last year:

Tyson Jackson > BJ Raji

Doesn't excuse him from missing on guys like Orakpo, though.

I understand what Kenpom says, and I don't care. Relative value and worth, it's not even close. Raji + Houston would be two very fine additions.


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