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chiefzilla1501 12-23-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9236527)
Their offense was improved in almost every single category until Ben got hurt. Then he came back and started choking like Linda Lovelace.

Much like KC, Haley is a scapegoat not the actual culprit.

People here are ridiculously black or white. You either are 100% terrible or 100% awesome. Never any in between. And boy will people exaggerate to prove that point.

People acknowledge Haley was seriously hamstrung by a horrible gm and qb, yet they suggest that he should have won without him. I'm still trying to get an answer on what head coach would have succeeded under pioli with Matt cassel forced on him as a qb.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-23-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9217055)
Just saw on NBC 41 Jack Harry is reporting that Jason LaCanfora is saying Haley will be Arizonas top choice for replacing Whisenhunt.

Well if Jack said it!!!!!!!!

Mr. Laz 12-23-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9236535)
I have seen all but one Pittsburgh game and his "imprint" when you can see it, has been positive.

Roethlisberger chokes, Steelers lose, bitter Chief fans blame Haley.

Seems reasonable.

Poor Todd


why is everyone always picking on him?

htismaqe 12-23-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9236877)
Poor Todd


why is everyone always picking on him?

I don't know, because they wouldn't dare blame the person actually responsible because he wears Super Bowl rings?

Agent V 12-23-2012 06:57 PM

Reach for the stars, Arizona. Christ.

Molitoth 12-23-2012 06:57 PM

I still like Todd. I wish him the best. Big Ben is a baby.

stonedstooge 12-23-2012 07:02 PM

It'll be interesting to see how he does if given a 2nd chance at head coach. He showed some good things here, but had some major ****ups too. Especially that time management shit with the clock

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-23-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 9236884)
Reach for the stars, Arizona. Christ.

LMAO
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/...CaseyKasem.gif

htismaqe 12-23-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9236903)
It'll be interesting to see how he does if given a 2nd chance at head coach. He showed some good things here, but had some major ****ups too. Especially that time management shit with the clock

He's not HC material. He's not mentally tough enough. Despite the gruff outward demeanor, guys that melt down like that, on national TV, lack willpower.

BossChief 12-23-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9236717)
That makes no sense.

Is that like some kind of Tourette's Syndrome?

You are saying that it was his fail to be a hc/OC combo and I posted MC because he is probably the reason no good OCs wanted any part of that job in KC. ESPECIALLY when Pioli was adamant that Cassel was the starter and wouldn't bring in legit combination.

I'd bet almost anything that he hires a OC when he gets his next HC gig because people will actually want the job.

I'm telling you, Matt Cassel effected everything to do with the rest of the leagues perception with this team over the last 4 years...NOT Todd Haley as evidenced by the Steelers forcing Arians out to hire Haley and him being in HC talks after one year there.

Let me take it one step further...I wouldn't be the least but surprised to hear Haley turn down HC offers this offseason to stay in Pittsburgh another year and wait for a perfect opportunity to come about because he knows how the rest of the league thinks of him.

htismaqe 12-23-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9236912)
You are saying that it was his fail to be a hc/OC combo and I posted MC because he is probably the reason no good OCs wanted any part of that job in KC. ESPECIALLY when Pioli was adamant that Cassel was the starter and wouldn't bring in legit combination.

No, you interpreted that wrong/I worded it poorly.

When I said "draw attention to himself" I meant the tirades and outbursts. It had nothing to do with the X's and O's - I actually think he's pretty good at those.

TribalElder 12-24-2012 08:16 AM

lol

That powerhouse Steeler team that is always in the playoffs missed the playoffs

Hell yeah Todd, that's what I'm talking about

mdchiefsfan 12-24-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9238175)
lol

That powerhouse Steeler team that is always in the playoffs missed the playoffs

Hell yeah Todd, that's what I'm talking about

Yea the team that has been dwindling year after year. The team we almost beat with Tyler Palko last year. Yup, it's all on Todd.

Keep trying.

jd1020 12-24-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9236912)
Let me take it one step further...I wouldn't be the least but surprised to hear Haley turn down HC offers this offseason to stay in Pittsburgh another year and wait for a perfect opportunity to come about because he knows how the rest of the league thinks of him.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers fired him after 1 year there.

You've got a coach who didn't want him. A QB who didn't want him. The #1 defense in the league. With the 22nd ranked offense in the league.

Haley sucks and yet dumbass threads like this get bumped because people continue to swing from his sack like he was some genius in KC who didn't get to maximize his potential.

Everyone wants to talk about Roethlisbergers picks at the end of the game to lose. Yet no one wants to mention the whopping 10 point plan whipped up by Haley.

chiefzilla1501 12-24-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9238180)
And I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers fired him after 1 year there.

You've got a coach who didn't want him. A QB who didn't want him. The #1 defense in the league. With the 22nd ranked offense in the league.

Haley sucks and yet dumbass threads like this get bumped because people continue to swing from his sack like he was some genius in KC who didn't get to maximize his potential.

Everyone wants to talk about Roethlisbergers picks at the end of the game to lose. Yet no one wants to mention the whopping 10 point plan whipped up by Haley.

You're an idiot. Haley isn't going to be fired and the offense isn't a disaster there. He hasn't been an offensive mastermind, but there are far bigger problems than Haley in Pittsburgh. And it starts with your idiotic claim that Haley is losing games behind a top notch defense. The defensive decline is one of the biggest reasons the Steelers aren't the Steelers.

And Haley was hired for a specific reason. Because Big Ben is 30 and can't afford to play in an aerial offense anymore and they can't afford to have Big Ben exposed as he's been in the past to get clobbered. Despite Ben's injury, he's been knocked around a whole lot less this year and even crappy linemen are blocking with much better technique, just as we saw in Kansas City. Haley isn't going to get fired.


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