Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425067)

So Andy Reid went for the Flavor of the Month.

You're not making a case for him being a "QB guru". Quite the opposite actually.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9425080)

Teams will know what round each player will be slotted in. Especially the team that winds up in a position to draft said player.

For all the teams that wanted that player but missed out, they clearly didn't ****ing know where the QB was going to be drafted now, did they? I know only one team can pick one player, but your explanation is still a far ****ing cry from the Seahawks going, "We have Flynn but need another QB. Here's what we do: RUSSELL WILSON. Got it? He's gonna be our 3rd round pick, and no team will trade ahead of us to go get him, because we know EVERYTHING there is to know about this player."

I'm just trying to get you to stop saying reeruned shit like, "Teams know when players will be available in certain rounds." They can make educated guesses, but all it takes is a Christian Ponder reach or a huge ****ing surprise trade out of nowhere to throw things out of whack. Then all that educated speculation they made about the player goes out the window.

Smart teams don't pound the value button like a reeruned monkey. Smart teams isolate the players they really want and need, and they GET THEM. Regardless of whether or not it's considered a reach. For example, in that very same draft you saw Bruce Irvin get reached on hard by the Seahawks because they frankly didn't know if another team was going to one-up them. Irvin sure as hell wasn't very good value where they picked him, but they got their guy. They said, "**** value. We want this player." And they pulled the trigger.

Again, shut the **** up, dumbass

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9425080)

Teams will know what round each player will be slotted in. Especially the team that winds up in a position to draft said player.

For all the teams that wanted that player but missed out, they clearly didn't ****ing know where the QB was going to be drafted now, did they? I know only one team can pick one player, but your explanation is still a far ****ing cry from the Seahawks going, "We have Flynn but need another QB. Here's what we do: RUSSELL WILSON. Got it? He's gonna be our 3rd round pick, and no team will trade ahead of us to go get him, because we know EVERYTHING there is to know about this player."

I'm just trying to get you to stop saying reeruned shit like, "Teams know when players will be available in certain rounds." They can make educated guesses, but all it takes is a Christian Ponder reach or a huge ****ing surprise trade out of nowhere to throw things out of whack. Then all that educated speculation they made about the player goes out the window.

Smart teams don't pound the value button like a reeruned monkey. Smart teams isolate the players they really want and need, and they GET THEM. Regardless of whether or not it's considered a reach. For example, in that very same draft you saw Bruce Irvin get reached on hard by the Seahawks because they frankly didn't know if another team was going to one-up them. Irvin sure as hell wasn't very good value where they picked him, but they got their guy. They said, "**** value. We want this player." And they pulled the trigger.

Again, shut the **** up, dumbass

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9424961)

Yeah, Andy really "developed" Kolb.

Developed him into a career 59% passer with a 28:25 TD:INT ratio and a 79 QBR.

That just SCREAMS franchise QB.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9425099)

So by your logic, if Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is our top rated QB, we should take him 1st overall?

Because that's a ****ing horrible plan.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425067)

So Andy Reid went for the Flavor of the Month.

You're not making a case for him being a "QB guru". Quite the opposite actually.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9425105)

Well, if they have those two as their top two QB's, we have a bigger problem all together, but lets not dive into that right now.


:D

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9425099)

So by your logic, if Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is our top rated QB, we should take him 1st overall?

Because that's a ****ing horrible plan.

Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9425106)

Going off of your definition then, the opposite of a QB guru is a guy who gets quarterbacks to play well in his offense. Got it.

ROFL

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9425123)

We'll have to see.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to Donovan McNabb in this draft though. Very similar indeed.

Raw player with running ability, but better size and accuracy than McNabb. Hell their stats are also extremely similar.

Definitely think he's in the mix.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9425088)

I find all the anger at the draft guys and ex-GMs to be funny. Is it their fault this years QB class sucks in terms of top end talent? The networks LOVE QBs. If there was a prospect to get excited over and over-hype they would. Based on game film alone it looks like there is one prospect who is getting a mid-first round grade. That's it. The choice for Reid is (a) bring in a vet, (b) reach for Smith, or (c) wait for the later rounds and try to beat the odds that that player can become a franchise QB.

Reaching for Smith is fine since you aren't going to get the same impact from any other position if you hit your pick. But, people need to stop whining that the entire world doesn't view him as a top 3 graded player.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9425123)

We'll have to see.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to Donovan McNabb in this draft though. Very similar indeed.

Raw player with running ability, but better size and accuracy than McNabb. Hell their stats are also extremely similar.

Definitely think he's in the mix.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425127)

A QB guru is someone who develops ELITE QBs.
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9425136)

Come on man.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to McNabb?

They're not similar AT ALL.

Did you even watch Manuel play?

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9425137)

Eh. Then that would mean there's an extremely small number of QB gurus in the league. I mean, how many guys have developed multiple elite QBs?
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