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Hootie 04-04-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9558058)
I think it's a bit premature to say AJ Green is elite. He's had 2 seasons. He looks very good so far.

So pretend money had nothing to do with it...or age.

Next year...

who ya got?

AJ or Dwayne?

EagleRob 04-04-2013 09:20 PM

AJ Green because he will get more of the share if his teams targets than Bowe will. Reid spreads the ball around to too many receivers to have any one of them have a monster year. T.O. in 2004 was the exception. If he runs the vertical routes and can get separation, and the QB can lead him, look out. Otherwise it's slants and zoom routes.

Ming the Merciless 04-04-2013 09:21 PM

Ill take the guy who doesnt have alex smith at QB

Hootie 04-04-2013 09:21 PM

there was really no argument needed

AJ Green >>>>> Dwayne Bowe

and that's not bashing BOwe

Sfeihc 04-04-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9557894)
Kill yourself

Nice Dave. Now let me get this straight, I'm supposed to kill myself because I think DBo is lucky to be in the top dozen but AJ Green isn't ELITE? :hmmm:

You off your meds again?LMAO

ThaVirus 04-04-2013 09:44 PM

Its funny an Eagles fan brings this up here. One of my good friend's is an Eagles fan and has been arguing that DeSean Jackson is better than Dwayne Bowe. Of all people, DeSean ****ing Jackson. He even thinks he's gotten the better of me because every time we have the argument, he turns to everyone in the room and they all agree with him. ****ing reeruns. That dude sucks. Just tell him to run straight every play; that's all he good for..

He also argues LeSean McCoy is better than Jamaal Charles. You can't make this shit up, folks.

Anyway, I think Hootie hit this one on the head. Based off of production over the last few years (with last year being weighted most heavily), taking QB play into account, and future potential, there are three guys that go in tier 1 for sure: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson. I'd probably throw AJ Green and Julio Jones in there on a generous day. I might be inclined to throw Brandon Marshall in there if I just got laid or something.

You could throw a ton of guys in tier 2. Off the top of my head: Dwayne Bowe, Roddy White, Demaryious Thomas, Michael Crabtree, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Wes Welker, Miles Austin, Dez Bryant. I don't even care to name anymore. You give me a choice between any one of these guys in a pick-up game, it would be tough to make.

BigMeatballDave 04-04-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 9558208)
Nice Dave. Now let me get this straight, I'm supposed to kill myself because I think DBo is lucky to be in the top dozen but AJ Green isn't ELITE? :hmmm:

You off your meds again?LMAO

:evil:

So, 1 season with 65 catches and another with 96 is elite? 2 seasons?

Bowe caught 70 his rookie season, then followed it up with 86. What is that?

I love Bowe, but I do not think he is elite.

Green could very well become elite, but I'd, at least, give him a few more seasons.

jspchief 04-04-2013 09:46 PM

Top 2 are crystal clear. You could maybe argue for a couple more. After about top 4, it gets pretty muddy.

A lot of good receivers in the league right now. Bowe is definitely a talent, and arguably hasn't been able to reach his pinnacle due to his QBs.

You want to call him 10th or 14th? Whatever. It's a pretty subjective topic.

TribalElder 04-04-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9558187)
QB is everything.

Top 5 statement

Al Bundy 04-04-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9557636)
If Dwayne Bowe can believe that he is a top five WR in the NFL as was discussed on ESPN NFL Live tonight, then I as a n00b fan of another team can make the case I'm a top five poster on CP.

What I want to know is who the real homers are that believe Bowe and who are the realists that believe he's top 20 but not in the class of Megatron, Fitzgerald, etc?

STFU You're an idiot Eagles fan.

Sfeihc 04-04-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9558234)
:evil:

So, 1 season with 65 catches and another with 96 is elite? 2 seasons?

Bowe caught 70 his rookie season, then followed it up with 86. What is that?

I love Bowe, but I do not think he is elite.

Green could very well become elite, but I'd, at least, give him a few more seasons.

I'm biased towards Green because he's on my fantasy team. IMO, it's Megatron, Larry Fitz then AJ and Julio down by the schoolyard. I know I'm too harsh in my criticism of Bowe. When his career is done he will be the KC's best WR ever. That of course is an indictment of the franchise as much as it's praise of Bowe's abilities.

Hootie 04-04-2013 10:49 PM

so now it's about stats with Dave?

what?

Watch AJ Green and then watch Dwayne Bowe and then report back to me.

I'm fairly certain Dave doesn't actually watch football...and if he does, it's Chiefs only.

Hootie 04-04-2013 10:51 PM

AJ Green has HALL OF FAME ELITE talent.

Dwayne Bowe is good, not that good. Not close. I like Bowe, too.

BigMeatballDave 04-04-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9558351)
so now it's about stats with Dave?

what?

Watch AJ Green and then watch Dwayne Bowe and then report back to me.

I'm fairly certain Dave doesn't actually watch football...and if he does, it's Chiefs only.

He's played exactly 2 ****ing seasons.

And I never said Bowe was better than Green. He's incomplete at this point.

It's absolutely reeruned to call a 2nd year player elite. If he plays at last season's level for a few more seasons, sure.

aturnis 04-04-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 9558092)
Your a cool cat, no ones purr-fect.

Sweet. Got my cat joke laugh in for the day...


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