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Rausch 04-05-2013 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9559246)
Not all chances are created equal.
Odds are still only odds...

DumbHillbillies 04-05-2013 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9557930)
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"Or a woman"
Fcking hilarious

Direckshun 04-05-2013 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9559252)
Odds are still only odds...
Cool.

Tell you what, we'll GM two different teams.

I'll draft all the prospects that have a pretty good chance of panning out.

You can draft all the prospects that have a poor chance of panning out.

We'll see who's better in five years.

Rausch 04-05-2013 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9559251)
That doesn't make them all equal draft prospects. I'm not even sure why you bothered to type that.
Because teams don't go by "value draft" charts.

They don't and they never will.

Teams don't care who's rated where by any media outlet. Not even the one we decide to value most.

Each team has it's own value on every player and it's impossible to know where the true "value" is for any player.

All that matters is how many players you did or didn't add to your team...

Rausch 04-05-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9559259)
Cool.

Tell you what, we'll GM two different teams.

I'll draft all the prospects that have a pretty good chance of panning out.

You can draft all the prospects that have a poor chance of panning out.

We'll see who's better in five years.
Ok, but you only get 1 pick in each round...

The Franchise 04-05-2013 11:50 AM
Do you really think that GM's and their scouts look at Kiper, McShay and Mayock and give two shits what their rankings are?

Rausch 04-05-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9559266)
Do you really think that GM's and their scouts look at Kiper, McShay and Mayock and give two shits what their rankings are?
Apparently many here do...

Direckshun 04-05-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9559264)
Ok, but you only get 1 pick in each round...
Sounds good.

I'm pretty sure every single person on this forum would bet on the odds that my team is far better in 5 years.

Direckshun 04-05-2013 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9559266)
Do you really think that GM's and their scouts look at Kiper, McShay and Mayock and give two shits what their rankings are?
I don't, but I don't see why that's relevant.

patteeu 04-05-2013 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9559261)
Because teams don't go by "value draft" charts.

They don't and they never will.

Teams don't care who's rated where by any media outlet. Not even the one we decide to value most.

Each team has it's own value on every player and it's impossible to know where the true "value" is for any player.

All that matters is how many players you did or didn't add to your team...
I don't know what you're talking about, but it has nothing to do with what I posted.

houstonwhodat 04-05-2013 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9559235)
I missed the part where Brees did something Rodgers doesn't.

Let me know when Brees develops and arm to rifle some of the throws Rodgers does.
Yeah.

OK.

The Franchise 04-05-2013 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9559275)
I don't, but I don't see why that's relevant.
Because people use it as some "end all" discussion when talking about where Geno Smith should rank or where Joeckel should rank.

Oh my God.....Kiper said Geno Smith should be ranked anywhere from 25-32. If Dorsey drafts him...he's a reach. Or maybe Dorsey feels completely different about Geno Smith and deems him worthy of the #1 pick.

**** the so called "Draft Experts" and their rankings. They don't mean shit other than they watch a shit ton of tape and they think they know what they're talking about.

patteeu 04-05-2013 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9559266)
Do you really think that GM's and their scouts look at Kiper, McShay and Mayock and give two shits what their rankings are?
What does that have to do with anything?

patteeu 04-05-2013 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9559283)
Because people use it as some "end all" discussion when talking about where Geno Smith should rank or where Joeckel should rank.

Oh my God.....Kiper said Geno Smith should be ranked anywhere from 25-32. If Dorsey drafts him...he's a reach. Or maybe Dorsey feels completely different about Geno Smith and deems him worthy of the #1 pick.

**** the so called "Draft Experts" and their rankings. They don't mean shit other than they watch a shit ton of tape and they think they know what they're talking about.
I didn't say "Kiper said Geno Smith should be ranked ...", I said that Kiper reported that the GMs he's talked to all said that Geno Smith was somewhere between 20 and 32 on their boards. That's the GMs talking, not Kiper. IIRC, Kiper thinks even less of Geno than that.

I also pointed out that this isn't an isolated report. It's a snowflake in a blizzard of these reports.

Rausch 04-05-2013 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9559281)
I don't know what you're talking about, but it has nothing to do with what I posted.
You'll figure it out...


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