Seriously, they think a game manager has had some kind of great success?

If they are that stupid, then we are more ****ed than I thought when Reid was initially hired.

For something completely different that this franchise hasn't done in 30 years is draft a first round QB. We average a new QB every 3-4 years and one playoff win with Joe ****ing Montana. **** the retreads. Draft and see if we can develop a QB worth a shit to take us to the promise land.

Ya I agree. Reid can coach QBs. I'm fine with whomever he wants. Although, I want a first round QB draft pick, I'm good with Reid. Got to trust these guys to get it done. They're not arrogant douchebags who leeched off of Belicheat.

For now, I'm sure they are. If he doesn't measure up, I'm sure they'll kick him to the curb. But if someone better or with the potential to be better comes available, I don't think for a second they would pass on him because they had Alex smith on the roster.

He did what he had to do to compete.

He was hired onto a team that was complete shit.

Last year was the worst year I can remember, but that's because this team had better talent overall than a 2-14 record would indicate.

But that was the product of piss poor coaching and QB play.

Those teams in the early 80s had some of the worst football players we've ever seen in our lives.

Geno will also make many more game costing mistakes in his first few years, I'll bet. I don't know it's "likely" Geno will be head and shoulders above AS, because QB is never that sure of a bet. I'd say it's 50-50 Geno becomes a top 15 QB.

Well, lets hope if he fails they kick him to the curb oppose to holding onto to him for four seasons and living through HELL!

Offensively, maybe, outside of Delaney. But defensively, the had some real players. Either way, the end result was the same. No playoffs, no playoff wins, losing seasons.

And just for the record, I wasn't then or am now "Anti-Marv", although I don't think that he would have had the same results in KC as he had in Buffalo, mainly due to Jim Schaaf.

Manning was falling apart at the end of last season. The Bronco's tried to hide his rag arm in the last payoff game. If they win the division, it will be by default. Not afraid.

This is a very good point.

I think it will be interesting to see how the Chiefs match up and challenge Manning with Smith, Robinson, Flowers, Berry and whoever else they add (I'm not counting on Abdullah at this point).

Maybe.

But outside of DT, the core group of players that Marty had his early success with wer the players drafted by Schaaf.

Yeah, absolutely. But even in the Steadman/Schaaf era, they were hesitant to scout and draft QB's consistently. I do give them credit for Fuller and Blackledge for trying, but there should have been a ton of guys in between and after.

As a Chiefs fan, I have to wonder if those decisions, or non-decisions, influenced Levy but even moreso, Polian.

He was never shy about drafting a QB once he left KC.

rofl...vintage Hamas.
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Peyton Manning destroys guys like Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson.

He used to destroy them.

I'm not so sure he can do that at age 37.