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listopencil 05-09-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by exterminator (Post 9670410)
The reason the rich get richer is because they use tax loop holes and strategy to avoid paying taxes.

Bullshit.

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The problem I have with her statement is that she's playing the race card whenever convenient.
I agree.

DTHOF 05-09-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 9669876)
In her defense. ...she is bat shit crazy lol

She should've pleaded insanity the defense would have been more credible.

SPATCH 05-09-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 9670628)
hey man....

nsfw curse words pic


this has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I doubt very much you've said anything here that we don't all know. white people know about slavery too. your post just doesn't have anything to do with Lauren Hill being a total ****ing reerun trying to use slavery as a reason. what a stupid stupid stupid bitch.

cool .jpeg, bro.

loochy 05-09-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by exterminator (Post 9670410)
The reason the rich get richer is because they use tax loop holes and strategy to avoid paying taxes.

No, it's because earning money generally takes resources and investment and a bit of risk. Rich people can afford to take the kinds of risks that normal and poor folk can not. Once a successful venture occurs, even more money is generated to invest in more money making ventures. It feeds itself. The rich get richer because of resources and good decisions (or luck). They can avoid some tax burden through loopholes or immoral behavior, but that isn't the prime generator of money.

Bump 05-09-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9670675)
If there was any way I could control where my tax dollars went, I'd allocate them all towards keeping weed illegal just to piss him off.

ya and screw over the millions of people who it could help and keeping the innocent behind bars so that a few can profit.


Sheeple

alnorth 05-09-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9670510)
PREFACE: I do not agree with Lauryn Hill's reparations excuse for not paying taxes, HOWEVER...

I think the average (white) citizens of our society sometimes lack perspective when it comes to the history of African Americans in our country.

1787: the Constitution of the United States is drafted. The 3/5 Compromise declares that black slaves are considered 3/5 of a person to help bolster voting bloc in southern US.

1870: 15th amendment passes giving blacks citizenship/right to vote.

*This means that less than 150 (only 5 generations ago) years ago blacks WERE NOT EVEN CONSIDERED PEOPLE BY OUR CONSTITUTION (they were 3/5 of a person - which is insanely dehumanizing, dudes).

1880s - 1960s: Much of the United States is hell-bent on keeping blacks out of mainstream society. Jim Crow laws are adopted, Plessy v Ferguson (separate but equal) rules, Ku Klux Klan forms up, etc.

WE ARE ONLY TWO GENERATIONS REMOVED THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT (many of us were raised by parents who were raised in a systematically [and socially accepted] racist world).

If you don't believe that blacks have been systematically disadvantaged throughout the VAST majority of our nation's history then you do not know your history.

It takes time to overcome all of those things. Racism is still alive and well in our country (as has been repeatedly proven on this board). We have come a long way as a society, but there are still a lot of demons from our nation's past that need to be exorcised.

We're not talking about the daughter of sharecroppers in rural Alabama who grew up during the 50's.

She was born in 1975, in New Jersey, to a couple parents who were both working professionals who could afford a decent middle class lifestyle. She had advantages that many others, white or black, did not have, and she made millions.

She doesn't get to cloak herself with a shield of black sympathy after going all Wesley Snipes on us. She needs to go to prison, and NONE of this stuff you cited is relevant in this case.

tooge 05-09-2013 10:58 AM

aren't there enough problems in our country vs. other countries hating us, that we can't just all be Americans and stand as one. Racism=a waste of time

Amnorix 05-09-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9670593)
Meanwhile, approximately 47% of America's lowest income earners don't pay taxes at all.

Not true. They pay payroll taxes.

loochy 05-09-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9670705)
ya and screw over the millions of people who it could help and keeping the innocent behind bars so that a few can profit.


Sheeple


well they aren't innocent

they broke the law

alnorth 05-09-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9670722)
Not true. They pay payroll taxes.

yep. The rich, ie the "top 5%, top 1%", etc still pay most of the taxes, but payroll taxes can't be thrown out. They still count as a tax on income.

Bump 05-09-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9670725)
well they aren't innocent

they broke the law

they broke an unjust law.

It's illegal because it can help people and it's profitable to arrest people for it. That is our tyrannical government at work.

Rain Man 05-09-2013 11:10 AM

I once fought a parking ticket with the argument that my ancestors moved with the railroad and thus had little opportunity to purchase parking spots. It didn't work.

Donger 05-09-2013 11:11 AM

The "wonder plant" which isn't a drug and cures cancer.

Fascist, totalitarian state just wants to keep it down.

Yep.

Always nice to see one of the side effects of the non-drug on display, however.

exterminator 05-09-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9670703)
No, it's because earning money generally takes resources and investment and a bit of risk. Rich people can afford to take the kinds of risks that normal and poor folk can not. Once a successful venture occurs, even more money is generated to invest in more money making ventures. It feeds itself. The rich get richer because of resources and good decisions (or luck). They can avoid some tax burden through loopholes or immoral behavior, but that isn't the prime generator of money.

Never said it was.

But it's one of the reasons.

They use their money wisely and take deductions to reduce their tax burden.

I do the same thing.

exterminator 05-09-2013 11:16 AM

And I watched Django Unchained last night for the first time.

How appropriate eh???


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