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KcMizzou 05-26-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9711302)
SR just because you shared the same stylist doesn't mean he is alright in your book. Hate him SR!

Yost doesn't strike me as the metrosexual type.

Fairplay 05-26-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 9711318)
Yost doesn't strike me as the metrosexual type.



Had to get a chance to mess with SR, best I could do with the material given. :shrug:

KcMizzou 05-26-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9711324)
Had to get a chance to mess with SR, best I could do with the material given. :shrug:

Ah, carry on.

LMAO

MrGiggity 05-26-2013 06:16 PM

Ned Yost = Romeo Crennel?

BWillie 05-26-2013 06:17 PM

Ned Yost is just Daytons pawn. No more no less. Hard to blame Ned. Sure, many ppl on this board could even do a better job than him (as you can see I dont value MLB managers). But, the Royals would still suck with or without Ned. Hosmer and Moose dont suck because of Ned. They just might not be very good. A good manager comoared to a bad manager in MLB is woth like 4 wins max.

Fairplay 05-26-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9711348)
A good manager comoared to a bad manager in MLB is woth like 4 wins max.



Heh, your math sucks.

KcMizzou 05-26-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9711348)
Hosmer and Moose dont suck because of Ned. They just might not be very good.

That right there is the issue. These guys (esp Hosmer) were supposedly "can't miss" prospects. Future stars. If they can't hit in the bigs, the whole plan falls apart.

But.. on the other hand, we used to think Gordon was a bust too.

petegz28 05-26-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9711289)
dick thread - Yost isn't the issue. I love that man.

No ya don't

petegz28 05-26-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 9711348)
Ned Yost is just Daytons pawn. No more no less. Hard to blame Ned. Sure, many ppl on this board could even do a better job than him (as you can see I dont value MLB managers). But, the Royals would still suck with or without Ned. Hosmer and Moose dont suck because of Ned. They just might not be very good. A good manager comoared to a bad manager in MLB is woth like 4 wins max.

Ned is easily to blame...

From pulling Shields to pinch hitting a guy who hasn't seen one pitch over Tejada to tolerating this stupid hand gesturing this team does every time they get a hit....

Not to mention moving your best leadoff hitter out of the leadoff spot, mis-managing running situations on the bases and some stupid bullpen moves.

petegz28 05-26-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 9711363)
That right there is the issue. These guys (esp Hosmer) were supposedly "can't miss" prospects. Future stars. If they can't hit in the bigs, the whole plan falls apart.

But.. on the other hand, we used to think Gordon was a bust too.

Yost started Moose in the cleanup spot this year based off of what? A partially good year last year and a good spring???

Do you think that made Moose press some when it counted? Do you think it ****ed with his head when he got moved further and further down?


The starting day lineup should have had Cain in the #3 spot and Butler in the #4.

Ned does not know how to manage a lineup, obviously.

lewdog 05-26-2013 06:48 PM

It is more so the attitude of the team that lets me know Ned isn't leading anything. No one acts like they give a shit and they continue to laugh and joke all the way though these losing game. This season does not rest on Ned's shoulders squarely though. Moose and Hoz aren't busts yet but their beyond pitiful play has to be the result of ALL coaches not being able to develop guys. And why is that? I really don't know. Those two don't have to be all-stars but they have to be serviceable, and right now they aren't even that, which rests on coaching to a degree because I refuse to believe both of them are busts. Nothing in their approaches seems to change, they continue to do the same approach at the plate with the same piss poor outcome. That is coaching. It isn't all Ned but being the "head" coach, the whole environment has to change with him leading. He isn't.

That being said, bringing in someone knew likely won't help. :facepalm:

MrGiggity 05-26-2013 06:53 PM

I get that coaches don't have as much impact as we think...but am I wrong for thinking this team would have been better off with Terry Francona?

petegz28 05-26-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9711393)
It is more so the attitude of the team that lets me know Ned isn't leading anything. No one acts like they give a shit and they continue to laugh and joke all the way though these losing game. This season does not rest on Ned's shoulders squarely though. Moose and Hoz aren't busts yet but their beyond pitiful play has to be the result of ALL coaches not being able to develop guys. And why is that? I really don't know. Those two don't have to be all-stars but they have to be serviceable, and right now they aren't even that, which rests on coaching to a degree because I refuse to believe both of them are busts. Nothing in their approaches seems to change, they continue to do the same approach at the plate with the same piss poor outcome. That is coaching. It isn't all Ned but being the "head" coach, the whole environment has to change with him leading. He isn't.

That being said, bringing in someone knew likely won't help. :facepalm:

Your first sentence is what I have been preaching the last few weeks. Yes, it is true that baseball managers have the least impact on the outcome of a game compared to other sports.

HOWEVER......any team, regardless of sport, will reflect their manager\head coach.

Rams Fan 05-26-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9711250)
He's only playing the players your GM gave him. Not many coaches will win with that roster.

SP- Shields= Above Avg Santana= Avg Guthrie= Avg Davis=Below Avg Mendoza= Below Avg

Bullpen= Avg
Hosmer= Below Avg
Getz = Below Avg
Escobar= Avg
Moustakas= Below Avg
Gordon= Above Avg
Cain= Below Avg
Francoeur= Awful
Perez= Avg
Butler= Above Avg

Cain and Escobar are both above avg.

Anyways, Moore needs to get the **** out. While he brought in some good talent, the prospects don't seem to be producing and he insists on making the Royals the Kansas City Braves, except with players past their prime and a manager who did nothing in Milwaukee or do anything of note in Atlanta.

KcMizzou 05-26-2013 07:01 PM

When they were winning, I LOVED that little bit of swagger. It's something we haven't seen in a long time.


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