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MahiMike 06-07-2013 06:28 AM

Alex Smith was pretty damn aggressive in that playoff win over the Saints...

Sandy Vagina 06-07-2013 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9735434)
Alex Smith was pretty damn aggressive in that playoff win over the Saints...

He is still more cautious than many other QBs, but he has changed for the better over the last few years. Watch him many years ago, and he would set up under center with an unsure, uncomfortable expression. In recent years, he's all sly and cocky smiles... seriously. I think it has more to do with him simply learning what's important. He's got the family and security to relax and treat the game as a game. Not to say he doesn't put A+ effort into football, he does. But he no longer battles with the intense pressure that can hinder QBs.

Easy 6 06-07-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 9731845)
Brilliant andy get alex to hold on take more sacks get hurt and me kaepernicked by bray. Thats my imaginary silver lining.

"Kaepernicked by Bray" :hmmm:, i like the way you think.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-07-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9736688)
"Kaepernicked by Bray" :hmmm:, i like the way you think.


This saying has truck.

49er guy49 06-10-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9733522)
Alex Smith will do whatever is asked of him. that's just the way he is.

Whatever the game plan is, is what he will do. its always been that way. hes a perfect soldier. There is no general in him though.


Really? Jim Harbaugh changed Alex Smith in a lockout shortened offseason. Taught him to protect the ball, and to make sure that every drive ended in a kick.

Alex has a brilliant mind, and he will do whatever Andy, and Doug want him to do. That is the problem with people assume that they know Alex Smith, and then get pissed when people WHO DO know Alex Smith, try to tell you what to expect. If Andy wants Alex throwing more down field, then Alex will do that.

As a guy who has seen every NFL game Alex has played in, and I have concluded there is no ****ing knowing him. I have been right about his performance a few times, but always on the wrong occasion.

I think you are closer than most of the people in here. If Reid wants alex to push the ball against certain coverage, he will. 2009 Alex used to throw to Davis on the post into all hell be damned triple coverage.

I think Alex might be close to his best throwing the ball 40 times a game with a healthy screen and check down game, but you never know with Alex Smith though. So based on my track record with predicting Alex Smith, he is going to do anything but thrive throwing the ball 40 times a game, but will do so later down the road.

Fat Elvis 06-10-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9732403)
Let the record show that Andy Reid would not have needed to coach Geno to "be more aggressive."

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9732869)
Let the record show that NO NFL team thought Smith worthy of a first round draft choice, let alone 1.1.

Let the record show that the Jets think that even Mark Sanchez is a better QB than Geno.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/6/9...ck-controversy

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There's a quarterback battle going on at New York Jets minicamp, but early impressions indicate incumbent starter Mark Sanchez doesn't have a whole lot to worry about. Considering rookie Geno Smith "hasn't blown anybody away," the team may have "little choice," but to start Sanchez, according to Rich Cimini of ESPN New York.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...t-football.jpg

WhiteWhale 06-10-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9732488)
If by 'Agressive' I hope they mean stretching the field vertically, rather than horizontally.

the last 4 years have been atrocious in attacking with the pass beyond 15 friggin' yards.

I think he's obviously talking about Alex taking riskier throws in practice and seeing what he can get away with. He's talking about throwing guys open and being aggressive against tighter coverage.

In other words, taking more chances.

Being more aggressive isn't just about throwing deep. To be a good NFL QB, sometimes you have to take chances. It sounds like Reid thinks Alex can make passes he's not attempting.

We'll see. I don't have much faith in Smith, but I don't have a problem with Reid trying to improve him as a player like some folks do.

chiefzilla1501 06-10-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9742194)
I think he's obviously talking about Alex taking riskier throws in practice and seeing what he can get away with. He's talking about throwing guys open and being aggressive against tighter coverage.

In other words, taking more chances.

Being more aggressive isn't just about throwing deep. To be a good NFL QB, sometimes you have to take chances. It sounds like Reid thinks Alex can make passes he's not attempting.

We'll see. I don't have much faith in Smith, but I don't have a problem with Reid trying to improve him as a player like some folks do.

Yup. They're going to let him sink or swim, not hide behind a conservative offense. I really don't care if he sinks, as long as they recognize the problem and move on. Rather that than have mild success because he wasn't taking chances, and convince KC fans that he's the answer.

NinerDoug 06-12-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9742211)
Yup. They're going to let him sink or swim, not hide behind a conservative offense. I really don't care if he sinks, as long as they recognize the problem and move on. Rather that than have mild success because he wasn't taking chances, and convince KC fans that he's the answer.

Well, Jim Harbaugh succeeded with Alex by playing to his strengths, and not asking him to do anything he didn't think he could do, or do well.

Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he can't be more aggressive. Just that Harbs didn't need to take those chances with the team he's got. Bit of a different situation with the Chiefs.

Mav 06-12-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 9746877)
Well, Jim Harbaugh succeeded with Alex by playing to his strengths, and not asking him to do anything he didn't think he could do, or do well.

Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he can't be more aggressive. Just that Harbs didn't need to take those chances with the team he's got. Bit of a different situation with the Chiefs.

I agree. I also think that this is the first year since perhaps his second year in the league with Norv Turner, that Alex Smith truly has a Coach, that is 100% dedicated to him. No 49er fan truly understood how Harbaugh felt about Kaepernick heading into that season, and truth be told, after seeing Kaep perform in the preseason in 2011, no one thought that Alex Smith would of had anything to worry about for a couple years. I was on record of saying that the best thing for Kaep would be that he would sit ala aaron rodgers for a few years, develop, and then take over. Obviously, with the kids work ethic, and an unfortunate concussion by Alex Smith, sadly when he was playing the best football of his career, opened that door, and accelerated that process. But, this year, with Andy Reid, the compensation given up, and the early impressions from the coaching staff, players, and gm, clearly this is Alex Smiths team, and clearly, he is not looking over his shoulder no matter how much people want to think that Chase Daniel, or Tyler Bray can be, or are better. Alex Smith is going to have his chance to cement his legacy one way or the other. Was he a product of being a care taker under Jim Harbaugh, or was he a late bloomer needing the guidance of Doug Pederson, Andy Reid, and Brad Childress to unlock the potential that landed him as the number one over all pick 8 years ago.

Lots of questions, lots of opinions, the answers, will be known in 6 months.

NinerDoug 06-12-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9747253)
I agree. I also think that this is the first year since perhaps his second year in the league with Norv Turner, that Alex Smith truly has a Coach, that is 100% dedicated to him. No 49er fan truly understood how Harbaugh felt about Kaepernick heading into that season, and truth be told, after seeing Kaep perform in the preseason in 2011, no one thought that Alex Smith would of had anything to worry about for a couple years. I was on record of saying that the best thing for Kaep would be that he would sit ala aaron rodgers for a few years, develop, and then take over. Obviously, with the kids work ethic, and an unfortunate concussion by Alex Smith, sadly when he was playing the best football of his career, opened that door, and accelerated that process. But, this year, with Andy Reid, the compensation given up, and the early impressions from the coaching staff, players, and gm, clearly this is Alex Smiths team, and clearly, he is not looking over his shoulder no matter how much people want to think that Chase Daniel, or Tyler Bray can be, or are better. Alex Smith is going to have his chance to cement his legacy one way or the other. Was he a product of being a care taker under Jim Harbaugh, or was he a late bloomer needing the guidance of Doug Pederson, Andy Reid, and Brad Childress to unlock the potential that landed him as the number one over all pick 8 years ago.

Lots of questions, lots of opinions, the answers, will be known in 6 months.

Well, in spite of the fact that CK7 was obviously drafted to take over at some point, I always thought that Harbaugh completely supported Alex .......until the concussion, that is.

Sandy Vagina 06-12-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 9747843)
Well, in spite of the fact that CK7 was obviously drafted to take over at some point, I always thought that Harbaugh completely supported Alex .......until the concussion, that is.

Yeah, I will always be a die-hard 49ers fan, but Harbaugh is an asshole snake for stabbing Alex in the back. Jim got what he deserved by losing the SB... though we the fans didn't deserve it. (well, some did) Oh well.. won't historically be the first team I adore that is coached by a despicable person.

milkman 06-12-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9747906)
Yeah, I will always be a die-hard 49ers fan, but Harbaugh is an asshole snake for stabbing Alex in the back. Jim got what he deserved by losing the SB... though we the fans didn't deserve it. (well, some did) Oh well.. won't historically be the first team I adore that is coached by a despicable person.

Good god, you're a dumbass.

NinerDoug 06-12-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9747906)
Yeah, I will always be a die-hard 49ers fan, but Harbaugh is an asshole snake for stabbing Alex in the back. Jim got what he deserved by losing the SB... though we the fans didn't deserve it. (well, some did) Oh well.. won't historically be the first team I adore that is coached by a despicable person.

Holy Shit. My friend, Harbs is a God.

He did not "stab Alex in the back." The Niners moved up in the second round to draft CK7. He was not drafted to be a backup. Everyone, including Alex, knew he was drafted to take over eventually.

As the head coach, his "prime directive," to wax star trek, is to do what was best for the team. It was apparent to everyone that turning it over to Kaep at that point was what was best for the team. I always supported Alex and wanted him to succeed, but, unfortunately, that is part of the game.

What Harbs did for the Niners was incredible, miraculous. And Alex got to ride that wave for a while. Not going to tell you how to feel, but I just cant understand being pissed at Harbs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-12-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 9747964)
Holy Shit. My friend, Harbs is a God.

He did not "stab Alex in the back." The Niners moved up in the second round to draft CK7. He was not drafted to be a backup. Everyone, including Alex, knew he was drafted to take over eventually.

As the head coach, his "prime directive," to wax star trek, is to do what was best for the team. It was apparent to everyone that turning it over to Kaep at that point was what was best for the team. I always supported Alex and wanted him to succeed, but, unfortunately, that is part of the game.

What Harbs did for the Niners was incredible, miraculous. And Alex got to ride that wave for a while. Not going to tell you how to feel, but I just cant understand being pissed at Harbs.

Sweet Jesus; this.


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