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Hammock Parties 07-06-2013 12:12 AM

That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

Just Passin' By 07-06-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 9793948)
Well since the MSN author lists nothing but the OP's site as his source, I'm still skeptical. So we have some guy, and some other guy. They could be the same writer pimping his own work for all we know.

Due to the internet echo chamber/automated blog pimping for pay-per-click ads, any viral article like this is going to have 100s of hits in a day. But a lot of times when you trace them it's all from one source.

I'm not saying the article isn't true. I'd just like to see another source before I believe it.

How about the Las Vegas Review Journal?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/cr...ng-their-homes

mikey23545 07-06-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794640)
That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

Bullshit.

That's a perfect way for someone to pretend like they're complying while they're hiding a weapon behind a tinted, barely cracked open window.

I would like to think they pistol whipped the little ****er once they had him out of the car, then sliced open all his upholstery while "searching" for drugs.

Dayze 07-06-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 9794656)
Bullshit.

That's a perfect way for someone to pretend like they're complying while they're hiding a weapon behind a tinted, barely cracked open window.

I would like to think they pistol whipped the little ****er once they had him out of the car, then sliced open all his upholstery while "searching" for drugs.

Wut?

J Diddy 07-06-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794640)
That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

It's a dui checkpoint. How exactly was the officer to determine if he was driving under the influence when the driver hid behind the window? IMO, his actions produced the appearance that he was under the influence and warranted the investigation.

Also, how is one to be certain that what he stated was true?


You probably thought that The Purge was a good movie concept didn't you?

Just Passin' By 07-06-2013 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9794673)
It's a dui checkpoint. How exactly was the officer to determine if he was driving under the influence when the driver hid behind the window? IMO, his actions produced the appearance that he was under the influence and warranted the investigation.

Also, how is one to be certain that what he stated was true?


You probably thought that The Purge was a good movie concept didn't you?

To the best of your knowledge, what laws did the driver of the vehicle violate?

http://forums.officer.com/forums/arc.../t-142318.html

J Diddy 07-06-2013 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9794681)
To the best of your knowledge, what laws did the driver of the vehicle violate?

http://forums.officer.com/forums/arc.../t-142318.html

I'm not really sure how a forum discussion on a speeding ticket relates to this case. Could you please elaborate?

Also, it states on your speeding ticket forum that nothing was suspected, however, admittedly this guy stated that the officer said the drug dog went off.

I'm not 100% clear of the location of this stop (probably said but I didn't notice) and don't know the dui checkpoint laws because, to my understanding, they vary state by state.

However, everything else being equal, isn't there an awful lot being taken on faith by the public concerning this man's word?

Consistent1 07-06-2013 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9794673)
It's a dui checkpoint. How exactly was the officer to determine if he was driving under the influence when the driver hid behind the window? IMO, his actions produced the appearance that he was under the influence and warranted the investigation.

Also, how is one to be certain that what he stated was true?


You probably thought that The Purge was a good movie concept didn't you?

That is bullshit. The cops will write "strong smell of alcoholic beverages" from 20 feet away.

LoneWolf 07-06-2013 05:47 AM

The asshole in Clay's video was looking for trouble and he got exactly what he was looking for. Why else would he have a camera set up pointing directly at his driver side window?

At a DUI checkpoint, the police at least need to be able to see and smell inside the vehicle for the checkpoint to be effective. Only cracking your window and acting suspicious gives the police the indication that you are hiding something. It makes their job harder and aggravating. They were there to try to get drunk drivers off the road. Does anyone have a problem with this? I for one want the police to do everything they legally can to stop people from driving drunk.

Chief Roundup 07-06-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794568)
**** cops.

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Dude **** this little punk. He was instigating this whole thing before he ever got there or he wouldn't have had the camera positioned and everything the way he did. This little punk was trying to start some shit. If you go looking for trouble and you find it. It is still your fault since you went looking.

Just Passin' By 07-06-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9794687)
I'm not really sure how a forum discussion on a speeding ticket relates to this case. Could you please elaborate?

The comments in that line of discussion should have made that plain to see, and there was even one post specifically discussing a DUI stop:

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I heard about this in the Academy as a stunt drivers pull to get out of DUI's. First guy that pulled it on me I was ready for. I walked up to his passenger window instead when I went back with his citation, he rolled down the window on the passenger side while keeping the drivers window cracked. Created a good airstream for me to fully smell the alcohol. He got a DUI on that stop.
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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9794687)
Also, it states on your speeding ticket forum that nothing was suspected, however, admittedly this guy stated that the officer said the drug dog went off.

There were several different examples given. It wasn't just about speeding tickets. The thread was about just rolling the window down a crack and its legality. That was the question that started it off, as a matter of fact.

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Here’s the scenario:

1. Male is pulled over for speeding.
2. He chooses to only roll down his window 2 inches, just enough for oral communication to take place and for tickets/license/etc to be passed through the window.
3. He is acting normally and there is nothing suspicious such as the scent of alcohol or drugs.

Questions:

1. Would you ask him to roll down his window all the way?
2. If he respectfully refused, would there be legal justification for you to arrest him/break his window.

Note: I realize that you probably would not like it if someone did this, and that by doing this the individual is increasing his chances of getting a ticket. That being said I’m mainly interested in the legality of the situation and would appreciate serious responses.
I'm not sure if you missed that part.

I, personnally, found the thread illuminating as to just how petty a lot of the officers were willing to admit to being about people daring to exercise their rights. LA Dep was a particularly vivid example of this:

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No and No to your questions.....

and it increases his 'chance' of getting a ticket to 100%.......as well as maybe conducting a safety inspection of his vehicle.....just to make sure all his equipment was in good working order.....
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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9794687)
However, everything else being equal, isn't there an awful lot being taken on faith by the public concerning this man's word?

No. I simply asked you what laws he'd violated and pointed you to a police officer's forum where they were acknowledging that just rolling the window down a little bit wasn't illegal, and many of them were noting that they didn't have a problem with it.

In the case at hand, the officer tells another officer that the "man" is innocent and knows his rights, and that there really wasn't much of a hit. Did you miss that? Did I mishear it?

BigMeatballDave 07-06-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794640)
That guy did nothing wrong. The cop got all nasty because he didn't want to roll his window down all the way. That's his constitutional right.

LMAO Constitutional right?

Ace Gunner 07-06-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9794568)
**** cops.

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crooked redneck POS

crazycoffey 07-07-2013 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9793537)
Typical cop overreaction.

Typical anonymous poster blanket post.

crazycoffey 07-07-2013 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9793778)
Yeah see that is the problem. The settlements have to be paid by the taxpayer not the person that committed the act.
Police Officers should have to provide their own liability insurance like Doctors and such or something along those lines. There should be a way to shift the financial responsibility away from the taxpayer.

We do, it's more like a union than a doctors malpractice insurance. But rest assured if I do something blatantly illegal, the department and the union will not help me and I can be liable in court for any and all belongings.


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