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notorious 10-17-2013 08:13 PM

A 10 second run off can be avoided by having a timeout.

Seattle did not have a timeout.

GloryDayz 10-17-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10095082)
Seattle was gifted 3 points.

Should have been half. ANOTHER ****-UP!

I thought they defended it. No? Was it a bad call?

notorious 10-17-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10095083)
This... The NFL just had a loophole playout in front of them...

Not a loophole, the refs just ****ed it up.


The rule is specifically written to keep the offense from taking advantage.

ThaVirus 10-17-2013 08:15 PM

Fantastic defensive series for Ari there.

Dylan 10-17-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10095066)
That's what I was Wondering. If teams can just commit a penalty to stop the clock when they are out of timeouts then all teams would be doing it. And it woulds be cheating.

As long as you a few seconds left on the clock and no TO's, complete a 20 yd pass down to the 20+ line - you are allowed to hold a guy from the start of the play and kick a FG. :D

notorious 10-17-2013 08:16 PM

In the NFL and NCAA, a 10-second runoff is assessed if any of the following acts are committed by the offense in the last minute of either half:

A foul by either team that prevents the ball from being snapped
Intentional grounding
Illegal forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage
Throwing a backwards pass out of bounds
Spiking or throwing the ball away after a down (unless after a touchdown)
Any other intentional act that causes the clock to stop

The 10-second penalty does not apply if:

The clock is stopped when the ball is set for play and will not start until the ball is snapped.
If the team on offense has timeouts and elects to use one in lieu of the runoff.
If the defense declines the runoff (which prevents the offense from committing fouls to intentionally run out the clock). Note that the team on defense may elect to decline the runoff while accepting the yardage penalty, but may not do the reverse.

eDave 10-17-2013 08:17 PM

Palmer's opportunity to shine. But that looked like an outstanding play on defense.

Edit: Pfft. Chucking up hail mary's

notorious 10-17-2013 08:17 PM

I guess they didn't "Intentionally" try to stop the clock.

You are right, Glory, it was a loophole.

Dylan 10-17-2013 08:18 PM

thanks, notorious!

teachable moment...:D

notorious 10-17-2013 08:19 PM

I am sorry.

My anger with the referees is manifesting itself way too soon. It should only come out when we play Denver.

-King- 10-17-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10095087)
Not a loophole, the refs just ****ed it up.


The rule is specifically written to keep the offense from taking advantage.

Apparently, holding is not one of the penalties that results in a runoff. So I guess they made a good call.

notorious 10-17-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10095106)
Apparently, holding is not one of the penalties that results in a runoff. So I guess they made a good call.

Oh, that was you.


Sorry man, good job.

GloryDayz 10-17-2013 08:23 PM

AZ's defense = WAY SOFT! They're like Grambling...

notorious 10-17-2013 08:23 PM

Moral of the story: Hold like a Denver if you are within FG range without a TO.

-King- 10-17-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10095114)
Moral of the story: Hold like a Denver if you are within FG range without a TO.

Yeah I guess. Rule needs to be changed.


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