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listopencil 11-10-2013 10:28 PM

Did you guys get to the end of that article?


"My takeaway is that this is one of many ways that this Denver team can beat you and that smart offenses should look to steal these ideas. Not sure the officials will always afford you the same wiggle room that Manning gets, but if the NFL doesn't see this as anything more than "football", then teams are not using all their advantages to mount drives and scores with a simple technique like this."



Silock 11-10-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10176924)
Did you guys get to the end of that article?


"My takeaway is that this is one of many ways that this Denver team can beat you and that smart offenses should look to steal these ideas. Not sure the officials will always afford you the same wiggle room that Manning gets, but if the NFL doesn't see this as anything more than "football", then teams are not using all their advantages to mount drives and scores with a simple technique like this."



Hoping that the referees ignore the rules doesn't seem like a great strategy.

WhiteWhale 11-10-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10176912)
REP for knowing good music.

Well my taste in women, wine, professions, and food all leave a lot to be desired... so at least I have that. :thumb:

Chiefshrink 11-10-2013 10:32 PM

C'mon Chieftan Fans !! Stop will ya !!! Just stop all the 'cheating BS' talk ! All it does is show your anxiety about next week's game. Not my anxiety of course BUT this 'cheating BS talk' reminds me of all the Bronco O-line so-called illegal zone blocking crap:rolleyes:

Play the game and let chips fall where they may !! But the Colts did show how to beat the Donks. In Mannings face all game and play man to man in our 2ndary the whole game while we chew up the clock with dink and dunk and the run;)

WhiteWhale 11-10-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10176924)
Did you guys get to the end of that article?


"My takeaway is that this is one of many ways that this Denver team can beat you and that smart offenses should look to steal these ideas. Not sure the officials will always afford you the same wiggle room that Manning gets, but if the NFL doesn't see this as anything more than "football", then teams are not using all their advantages to mount drives and scores with a simple technique like this."



The dumbest thing about this is some weird idea that Manning is behind it.

Teams have been doing this forever. It can kill a drive if the officials 'decide' to call it though, and Manning is more likely to get defensive holding or defensive PI if his WR runs over a defender.

It sucks, but it's not new.

WhiteWhale 11-10-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 10176935)
C'mon Chieftan Fans !! Stop will ya !!! Just stop all the 'cheating BS' talk ! All it does is show your anxiety about next week's game. Not my anxiety of course BUT this 'cheating BS talk' reminds me of all the Bronco O-line so-called illegal zone blocking crap:rolleyes:

Play the game and let chips fall where they may !! But the Colts did show how to beat the Donks. In Mannings face all game and play man to man in our 2ndary the whole game while we chew up the clock with dink and dunk and the run;)

I agree, though my opinions on cut blocking have no changed.

I support it, but not under the current rules. It still allows guys to cut defenders from 'blind spots'. They cut guys from behind and if their helmet is in front of the knee it's legal. I don't like that. Personal opinion though.

Red Dawg 11-10-2013 10:36 PM

Manning can't throw with power anymore so this is their main offense. It was these plays all night tonight.

Nightfyre 11-10-2013 10:38 PM

There were numerous instances of OPI tonight that went uncalled. I blame the NFL for putting Manning on a pedestal.

Silock 11-10-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10176960)
There were numerous instances of OPI tonight that went uncalled. I blame the NFL for putting Manning on a pedestal.

Poe = pedestal destroyer

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-11-2013 01:01 PM

The era of Manning Entitlement is about to come to a bloody close.

Dayze 11-11-2013 01:30 PM

if our defenders see a pick coming, they need to launch into the receiver.
they also need to jack any receiver coming over the middle, or otherwise, that are in the 5-6 yd range. whether they're getting the ball or not. hell, even if the play has already passed to a different receiver, jack the dude in the chops.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-11-2013 10:50 PM

If Denver thinks for one minute that our defense is coming for anything other than blood, they are out of their goddamned minds.

Sorter 11-11-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10176898)
The CHEATING DONX run illegal picks as much as Indy used to when BIG HEAD played there. Now add a little Crisco to the OL and chop blocks & they'll be just as bad as the HORSE FACE CHEATING DONX were. **** EVERYTHING Denver!

Alex Gibbs is a consultant there now, IIRC.

Sorter 11-11-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10178142)
if our defenders see a pick coming, they need to launch into the receiver.
they also need to jack any receiver coming over the middle, or otherwise, that are in the 5-6 yd range. whether they're getting the ball or not. hell, even if the play has already passed to a different receiver, jack the dude in the chops.

Which receiver?

Additionally, you can see "designed picks" from spacing concepts as well as "dragon" (see Direckshun, the WC terminology is finally breaking through).

bowener 11-12-2013 12:12 AM

I kind of hope they do this to Houston and he lays a shoulder into Decker's facemask at full speed. I'm certain they will throw the flag on us, but Decker may not run the picks with as much enthusiasm next time.


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