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ShowtimeSBMVP 08-08-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10803914)
Man you guys are hot. 23-10 over the last 33 games? Big night tonight for you guys bringing back all the old timers for your 60th anniversary. But, we have not lost a game at Camden yards, evah!;)

See we just cant score right now.

Pepe Silvia 08-08-2014 05:41 PM

**** You Masterson. Get this Cleveland trash out of here. I was pissed when we traded for him.

BigRedChief 08-08-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10804027)
**** You Masterson. Get this Cleveland trash out of here. I was pissed when we traded for him.

Martinez needed to work on his change up and breaking ball. As soon as he gets those pitches going, Masterson will go to the bullpen. He will be useful in the playoffs. A great change of pace.

he will be a great guy to bring in after Lynn/Miller to pitch a couple of innings, go through the line up once. Then bring the power pitchers back in to close it out.

Besides, some team will sign him in the off season and we will get a draft pick out of him.

Miles 08-08-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10804236)
Martinez needed to work on his change up and breaking ball. As soon as he gets those pitches going, Masterson will go to the bullpen. He will be useful in the playoffs. A great change of pace.

he will be a great guy to bring in after Lynn/Miller to pitch a couple of innings, go through the line up once. Then bring the power pitchers back in to close it out.

Besides, some team will sign him in the off season and we will get a draft pick out of him.

Pretty sure they changed it so that players traded during the year can't have a pick tied to them.

BigRedChief 08-08-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10804407)
Pretty sure they changed it so that players traded during the year can't have a pick tied to them.

All you have to do is give them a qualifying offer. Then you get the pick. It's a CBA formula that decides what amount is the "qualifying" offer.

I was okay with the trade. It was a gamble but a small one. I don't think anyone thought he was going to be better than a Westbrook even in a best case scenario.

We have Tilson/Grichek/Piscotty/Taveras in front of Ramsey. He wasn't even going to be called up for years. We still have a corner logjam.

ShowtimeSBMVP 08-08-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10804510)
All you have to do is give them a qualifying offer. Then you get the pick. It's a CBA formula that decides what amount is the "qualifying" offer.

I was okay with the trade. It was a gamble but a small one. I don't think anyone thought he was going to be better than a Westbrook even in a best case scenario.

We have Tilson/Grichek/Piscotty/Taveras in front of Ramsey. He wasn't even going to be called up for years. We still have a corner logjam.

Players traded mid-season cant get a QO.

BigRedChief 08-08-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10804515)
Players traded mid-season cant get a QO.

Well that sucks.:mad:

Jewish Rabbi 08-08-2014 09:41 PM

We'd be asinine to make a qualifying offer to Masterson. He'll take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. No one wants a washed up starter with a 5+ ERA.

Miles 08-08-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 10804773)
We'd be asinine to make a qualifying offer to Masterson. He'll take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. No one wants a washed up starter with a 5+ ERA.

Not sure he is completely washed up that can't bounce back after this season but does look like damaged goods at the moment. At least not his shoulder that is bad.

But yeah as you said wouldn't get a qualifying offer anyway.

BigRedChief 08-08-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 10804773)
We'd be asinine to make a qualifying offer to Masterson. He'll take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. No one wants a washed up starter with a 5+ ERA.

I thought qualifying offers were based on stats/skill level? His stats suck. I was thinking a qualifying offer would be small potatoes.

But anyway, we can't get a draft pick for the guy in the off season.

Jewish Rabbi 08-08-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10804835)
I thought qualifying offers were based on stats/skill level? His stats suck. I was thinking a qualifying offer would be small potatoes.

But anyway, we can't get a draft pick for the guy in the off season.

The qualifying offer is the average of the top 125 salaries of the season just finished. So same for everyone, no matter how good or bad they are.

BigRedChief 08-08-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 10804869)
The qualifying offer is the average of the top 125 salaries of the season just finished. So same for everyone, no matter how good or bad they are.

Welllll nlm that. He's damaged goods? But, it looks like Craig is too and we got out from under that contract and .240 average.

ShowtimeSBMVP 08-09-2014 10:57 AM

Ubaldo Jimenez returns today this could get ugly for Orioles.

BigRedChief 08-10-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10805217)
Ubaldo Jimenez returns today this could get ugly for Orioles.

You guys looked pretty good, World Series calibur team the first two games. Was it our pitching or you guys? You got a good record. Is this your year to make a run deep into the playoffs?

Whats with the Tom Clancy name on the uniform?

The stadium looked half full today. You guys are having a good year, do you not sell out the stadium?

Marcellus 08-10-2014 08:26 PM

Lance Lynn may be the most underrated pitcher in Cardinals Nation and in baseball in general.

For good reason I guess but damn he is turning it around. He has always won games but now he seems to be holding the mental part of it together.


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