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RunKC 04-02-2015 04:48 PM

Seahawks have drafted 3 starting OL and (Unger, Carpenter, Okung) in the top 50 and then another in the top 65(Justin Britt)

BossChief 04-02-2015 04:54 PM

I'm not sure it's about drafting well.

Asamoah was ok and Hudson was pretty good.

Albert was good, but his injury issues surfaced over and over.

Can't wrap up 23 million per on those guys, though.

OnTheWarpath15 04-02-2015 04:54 PM

And we've drafted 5 in the Top 75 over the last 5 years, and it's been a waste of draft capital.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-02-2015 04:56 PM

I am good with giving the line they have now a shot. Maybe a vet center for depth. They don't have to spend a single pick on the line. Sometimes you just have to give a guy like Kush a shot. Give Fulton another year to develop and if he falters you have a vet in Fanaika. Allen vs Stephenson should be a good camp battle as well.

Baby Lee 04-02-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11416023)
Bingo.

We've spent more draft capital at that position group than any other team but Dallas - and what has that gotten either of us?

Hasn't got us jack, but it got Dallas as close to playoff ready as a Romo led team ever could or will be.

OnTheWarpath15 04-02-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11416076)
I am good with giving the line they have now a shot. Maybe a vet center for depth. They don't have to spend a single pick on the line. Sometimes you just have to give a guy like Kush a shot. Give Fulton another year to develop and if he falters you have a vet in Fanaika. Allen vs Stephenson should be a good camp battle as well.

Couldn't agree more.

I think they were pretty smart in addressing their OL issues in FA and trades - which allows them to use most of their 10 picks on difference makers.

RunKC 04-02-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11416072)
And we've drafted 5 in the Top 75 over the last 5 years, and it's been a waste of draft capital.

Big issue with that was coaching. Stephenson, Hudson and Asamoah don't fit what Andy wants in an OL. Completely different scheme from what I remember.

The Franchise 04-02-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11416076)
I am good with giving the line they have now a shot. Maybe a vet center for depth. They don't have to spend a single pick on the line. Sometimes you just have to give a guy like Kush a shot. Give Fulton another year to develop and if he falters you have a vet in Fanaika. Allen vs Stephenson should be a good camp battle as well.

I wouldn't be against grabbing a guard or tackle in the 3rd-5th round range if they're the BPA at that point. Like a John Miller or Rob Havenstein. I just don't see OL as the BPA at #18 though. There are number of CBs that would fit better.

The Franchise 04-02-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11416091)
Big issue with that was coaching. Stephenson, Hudson and Asamoah don't fit what Andy wants in an OL. Completely different scheme from what I remember.

Hudson didn't fit what Andy wants in an OL? ****ing bullshit. He was such a bad fit that we tried to re-sign him.

OnTheWarpath15 04-02-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11416091)
Big issue with that was coaching. Stephenson, Hudson and Asamoah don't fit what Andy wants in an OL. Completely different scheme from what I remember.

Where do you get this shit?

If Stephenson doesn't fit the scheme, why is he getting a shot to start at RT?

OnTheWarpath15 04-02-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11416093)
Hudson didn't fit what Andy wants in an OL? ****ing bullshit. He was such a bad fit that we tried to re-sign him.

Also, this.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-02-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11416092)
I wouldn't be against grabbing a guard or tackle in the 3rd-5th round range if they're the BPA at that point. Like a John Miller or Rob Havenstein. I just don't see OL as the BPA at #18 though. There are number of CBs that would fit better.

I can agree with that. Mid to late rounds I definitely would not mind. At 18.....ughhhh

Pasta Little Brioni 04-02-2015 05:45 PM

The biggest boost to the line would be Fisher putting on his big boy pants and owning souls

RunKC 04-02-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11416093)
Hudson didn't fit what Andy wants in an OL? ****ing bullshit. He was such a bad fit that we tried to re-sign him.

Hudson did an awesome job no doubt. But I think there's a reason Allen and Stephenson went to get bigger and stronger?

I think Andy likes the power scheme type OL who can be athletic like the zone blocking guys. IIRC Sorter said we played some zone.

I think that last year was so catastrophic bc Reid had big plans for Allen and Stepehenson to get bigger to be more like "maulers" but keeping that athleticism.

BossChief 04-02-2015 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11416093)
Hudson didn't fit what Andy wants in an OL? ****ing bullshit. He was such a bad fit that we tried to re-sign him.

For 6m per (what was reported that we offered) he would have been a good signing.

He wasn't worth 9


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