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Reerun_KC 08-31-2015 08:01 PM

If Brady wins, the Goddell sympathizing Brady hating meltdowns will be priceless.

ClevelandBronco 08-31-2015 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11696941)
Bullshit.

No player in NFL HISTORY was ever suspended for equipment violations.

No player in NFL HISTORY was ever suspended for failure to cooperate in an investigation.


That right there is actually a huge part of my problem with this. The Commish engages in cowboy justice, doing whatever the fuq he wants to whoever the fuq he wants for whatever fuqqing reason he wants. It's absurd.

That's the double truth, Ruth.

BucEyedPea 08-31-2015 08:45 PM

Anyone claiming the CBA gives Goodell all this power to do what he did and blah, blah, blah.... didn't read Kessler's brief. Goodell violated the CBA in many places. As usual, the devil is in the details.

There was not even enough circumstantial evidence on Brady even—not when other multiple scenarios are possible to explain points and there's even evidence Brady insisted the rule be followed regarding psi minimums. BUT this case is on the process including whether Goodell followed the CBA himself or used arbitraries.

Dave Lane 08-31-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 11697008)
And if he doesn't, the owners should rip up the CBA and negotiate something better suited for them since the players side doesn't feel the need to follow it. Look at Kam Chancellor in Seattle as exhibit B.

You think the commish should be able to suspend anyone for any reason with no evidence? Is that your position?

Red Dawg 08-31-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11697383)
You think the commish should be able to suspend anyone for any reason with no evidence? Is that your position?

No evidence? What a joke. The commish only needs reasonable suspicion and there was more than enough evidence to support that much at least for sure.

Brady is hiding something for sure and he deserves his suspension.

MagicHef 08-31-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11697383)
You think the commish should be able to suspend anyone for any reason with no evidence? Is that your position?

No, the level of proof needed to punish someone by the CBA is a preponderance of evidence. That's what the NFLPA agreed to. The case against Brady reached that level.

BucEyedPea 08-31-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11697411)
No, the level of proof needed to punish someone by the CBA is a preponderance of evidence. That's what the NFLPA agreed to. The case against Brady reached that level.

No it didn't. Not all lawyers even agree that it did. Another problem is that the Wells investigation was not independent and the judge saw that too. The Well's Report read like an advocacy paper for the NFL and was even edited by someone on NFL's staff. All signs point to lack of independence.

This court case is not about Brady's innocence or guilt but about the process.

GloryDayz 08-31-2015 10:05 PM

I think if Brady wins, CP should ban all current and future Pats fans without warning or explanation. The Pats are everything that's wrong with the current NFL, and knowing that few teams, especially the Chiefs, will stoop to their level, having gloating fans from a team with such low moral character should be means for dismissal.

I've never called for any sort of mass banning like that, but in this case it's obvious Brady is lying, so there's no reason to do our best with sending them back to their own reach-around blog to stroke one another with yet another moral infraction that will go unpunished.

And I'd be happy if the NFL chose to see all those holds they've magically missed over the past few years. There's a hold on every play, there's no denying that, the NFL would do itself a favor by seeing them all in Brady's first four games. So, don't make stuff up, that's immoral, but there's nothing wrong with focusing on the plight of the Divine for four games.

And the Pats four losses while they hand Brady four checks, and that might be karma in action...

I know, it won't ever happen....

Pasta Little Brioni 08-31-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 11696708)
This chart is completely worthless. It doesn't track fumbles, but rather fumbles LOST. Because the lucky bounce of who gets a fumble really matters for purposes of seeing whether the ball was monkeyed with. Yeah...no.

It would be good to know if that stat is just counting offensive plays (where the Patriots controlled the ball) versus special teams plays (where they do not), but we have no idea.

It also doesn't seem to factor in fumbles at home (where McNally and the needle supposed lived) versus the road (where he did not, and where the Patriots have less control over their environment. More on this in a subsequent post.

You have become a joke of a poster. It's sad really. So ****ing obvious your team has cheated for a decade and you just continue to make up bullshit excuses every day.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-31-2015 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11697292)
Anyone claiming the CBA gives Goodell all this power to do what he did and blah, blah, blah.... didn't read Kessler's brief. Goodell violated the CBA in many places. As usual, the devil is in the details.

There was not even enough circumstantial evidence on Brady even—not when other multiple scenarios are possible to explain points and there's even evidence Brady insisted the rule be followed regarding psi minimums. BUT this case is on the process including whether Goodell followed the CBA himself or used arbitraries.

Bullshit. Bandwagon trash.

TEX 08-31-2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11697439)
You have become a joke of a poster. It's sad really. So ****ing obvious your team has cheated for a decade and you just continue to make up bullshit excuses every day.

This...
I used to respect his takes. Not anymore. Total Biased Patriot Hack now.

GloryDayz 08-31-2015 10:18 PM

I say ban them. Hell I don't say that about Donk fans, but this is different. That team, and their fans, need to be marginalized at every possible turn.

jspchief 08-31-2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11697292)
Anyone claiming the CBA gives Goodell all this power to do what he did and blah, blah, blah.... didn't read Kessler's brief. Goodell violated the CBA in many places. As usual, the devil is in the details.

There was not even enough circumstantial evidence on Brady even—not when other multiple scenarios are possible to explain points and there's even evidence Brady insisted the rule be followed regarding psi minimums. BUT this case is on the process including whether Goodell followed the CBA himself or used arbitraries.

Go away, ****

BucEyedPea 08-31-2015 10:56 PM

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BucEyedPea 08-31-2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11697504)
Go away, ****

Guess I'll have to post more in here then.


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