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splatbass 01-19-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12697563)

If you don't have a QB...just take one..just do it...do it...you won't regret it.

Moronic.

kcchiefsus 01-19-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12697563)
If the Chiefs had just drafted the next QB taken with their first 1st round pick every year for the last 15 years they would have had:

Drew Brees (traded pick for Green instad)
Matt Schaub (Junior Siavii)
Aaron Rodgers (Derrick Johnson)
Joe Flacco (Glenn Dorsey)
Andy Dalton (Jon Baldwin)
Teddy Bridgewater (Dee Ford)

If you don't have a QB...just take one..just do it...do it...you won't regret it.

I believe Derek Carr would have also been an option instead of Dee Ford.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2017 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697530)
Alex Smith is an above average QB.

Every year he has been here - EVERY SINGLE YEAR - the offense has been BELOW AVERAGE in total yards, passing yards, yards per completion, third down conversation percentage, passing first downs and touchdown passes.

This season, you can add red zone TD percentage and offensive points per game to that list.

He is a below average QB. The only thing that makes people think he isn't is the lack of turnovers.

That just makes him a scared QB. Not a good one, and not above average.

He's a below average QB who is getting worse.

That's not good for this franchise. He is a ticking time bomb.

splatbass 01-19-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12697582)
I believe Derek Carr would have also been an option instead of Dee Ford.

Hind sight is 20/20. All 32 teams decided he wasn't worth a 1st round pick, so it is hard to blame the Chiefs for passing him up in the 1st.

splatbass 01-19-2017 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12697597)
Every year he has been here - EVERY SINGLE YEAR - the offense has been BELOW AVERAGE in total yards, passing yards, yards per completion, third down conversation percentage, passing first downs and touchdown passes.

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So? There are lots of reasons for those stats, they don't show the whole picture. I am certain that most NFL FOs consider him better than average. Only simpletons like you (draft ANY QB in the 1st regardless of whether they are good or not? WTF?) see it otherwise, so I'm pretty confident in my viewpoint.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2017 09:41 PM

Matt Schaub is the worst QB on that list and he once threw for nearly 5000 yards and 30 TD.

Chiefs fans would have thought he was the second coming of Dan Marino.

Mr. Laz 01-19-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697530)
Alex Smith is an above average QB. He is a good QB. He is not a great QB, but as you said all we need is a good one. The truth is that if Kelse catches that long pass we win. If Houston isn't covering Brown on the long completion we win. If Reid calls more runs we probably win. If Fisher doesn't hold we might have won. And true, if Smith sees Hill running free we win. But Smith played well enough to win. There are a lot of reasons besides Alex Smith that we lost.

Blaming the QB when so many on the team failed is simplistic.

While I agree with most of what you said, Alex Smith also missed his share of plays himself. He is part of the problem.

Andy Reid is also a part of the issue that many underestimate.

Houston was put in deep cover twice by that idiot Sutton.

If Houston even shows up a little it would have helped dramatically. Once again when it comes to the playoff Houston is nowhere to be found. Only Ford manage to get any pass rush from the outside and that was very little.

Steeler's Oline was better than our Dline. Everyone continues to talk about how great Jones,Poe,Houston,Roche etc are and yet I didn't see much impact against the steelers. LB's were soft as shit.

The entire team is still soft, that shows up in the playoffs when the other teams are good. Good playoff teams don't generally give the game away by committing mistakes. We lived off the opponent's mistakes all year, just like the Schottenheimer teams.

We simply aren't good enough anywhere, not just one position. We don't have a single area of the team that is super bowl worthy ... including our coaching.

stumppy 01-19-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697613)
So? There are lots of reasons for those stats, they don't show the whole picture. I am certain that most NFL FOs consider him better than average. Only simpletons like you (draft ANY QB in the 1st regardless of whether they are good or not? WTF?) see it otherwise, so I'm pretty confident in my viewpoint.

Riiiiigggghhhttt.
I'm sure those stats like passing yards, passing first downs, passing td's, passing etc. have nothing to do with the guy who is throwing (or not throwing) every single pass related to them. Probably doesn't matter that the ball is in his hands on EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE PLAY IN THE GAME.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12697613)
So? There are lots of reasons for those stats, they don't show the whole picture.

The #1 reason: he is Alex Smith.

Alex Smith has NEVER had a season where he was above average in any of those categories.

NEVER.

Mr. Laz 01-19-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12697618)
Matt Schaub is the worst QB on that list and he once threw for nearly 5000 yards and 30 TD.

Chiefs fans would have thought he was the second coming of Dan Marino.

You just screwed up your own argument.

Shaub is the worst QB on the list .......... he threw for 5k/30td

If Shaub was in this offense he wouldn't have thrown for 5k/30td.

Smith threw for 3,500 yards this year in an offense that was goofy as shit.

Mr. Laz 01-19-2017 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12697642)
The #1 reason: he is Alex Smith.

Alex Smith has NEVER had a season where he was above average in any of those categories.

NEVER.

I'm smelling a mult

Clayton?

Hammock Parties 01-19-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12697644)
If Shaub was in this offense he wouldn't have thrown for 5k/30td.

I find that hard to believe considering he did that on a Texans team that had Andre Johnson and a bunch of scabs on offense.

Kevin Walter? Owen Daniels? Steve Slaton? Jacoby Jones?

Trash compared to our skill position players.

Nickhead 01-19-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12697659)
I find that hard to believe considering he did that on a Texans team that had Andre Johnson and a bunch of scabs on offense.

Kevin Walter? Owen Daniels? Steve Slaton? Jacoby Jones?

Trash compared to our skill position players.

shaub became predictable and fragile. i would never take shaub over alex. so there is that :D

splatbass 01-19-2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12697646)
I'm smelling a mult

Clayton?

Seems like a good possibility. Seems like him. same stupid ideas, same citing fantasy stats to make his moronic points.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12697664)
shaub became predictable and fragile. i would never take shaub over alex. so there is that :D

That's a complete unobjective opinion.

Schaub's worst full season was better than Smith's best full season.


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