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Marcellus 12-12-2021 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16005839)
So with 10x the carries, he still hasn't managed a run like that?
Let me ask you if Mahomes was averaging less yard per throw on average but Henne had this one great throw for a 90 yard TD in mop up time would you feel the same?

With 10X the runs he still has a way better average per run. I mean you can be stupid if you want to continue to be stupid.

dirk digler 12-12-2021 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16005662)
He doesn't score on either of CEH's TD's and CEH scores on the run the big run Gore had.

He is alright but the love for the guy is so overblown its ridiculous. There is a reason dude made it through waivers in a league with not that many great RB's.

Its alright to cheer for the dude and go cool, but he isn't better than CEH no matter how many idiots claim he is.

He wasn't better in college, he wasn't better in the draft and he isn't better now. If he were cut today he likely makes it through waivers again.

CEH doesn't make it past the first team.
Any of the 3 RB's would have scored on those 2 CEH runs and CEH may have gotten 5-10 yds max on that Gore TD run. He is to slow. His career longest run is 31 yds. I am not even sure he would have scored on that DWilliams catch and score, I don't believe he has never done that either from that distance.

Edit: CEH's longest reception is 29 yds so it is possible

Not saying Gore is great but I think he deserves more carries

Pitt Gorilla 12-12-2021 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16005876)
Any of the 3 RB's would have scored on those 2 CEH runs and CEH may have gotten 5-10 yds max on that Gore TD run. He is to slow. His career longest run is 31 yds. I am not even sure he would have scored on that DWilliams catch and score, I don't believe he has never done that either from that distance.

Edit: CEH's longest reception is 29 yds so it is possible

Not saying Gore is great but I think he deserves more carries
He's literally faster than Gore.

Pitt Gorilla 12-12-2021 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16005662)
He doesn't score on either of CEH's TD's and CEH scores on the run the big run Gore had.

He is alright but the love for the guy is so overblown its ridiculous. There is a reason dude made it through waivers in a league with not that many great RB's.

Its alright to cheer for the dude and go cool, but he isn't better than CEH no matter how many idiots claim he is.

He wasn't better in college, he wasn't better in the draft and he isn't better now. If he were cut today he likely makes it through waivers again.

CEH doesn't make it past the first team.
One would think that's pretty clear, but somehow it's not.

There's really no reason to continue arguing with people who know more than the coaches, data, etc.

kcclone 12-12-2021 10:50 PM
Gore is definitely the most explosive RB we have. I’m not sure we have a true number 1 that we can lean on, but Williams is really good in the passing game, Gore gives us an explosive threat and Clyde seems like a really nice guy.

JakeF 12-12-2021 11:08 PM
dlphg9 is just trolling.


Williams is the best receiving RB we have.
CEH is is best at slipping through between the guards
Gore has the best vision

Both Gore and Williams are better at breaking runs.

CEH had a couple pretty good runs against the Raiders today.

The problem is, we tell a defense what the play is going to be if we only use the RB for what they are best at.

All this talk doesn't matter, Andy is going to use CEH because he drafted him in the 1st round. It will take several years before he moves on.

dlphg9 12-12-2021 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 16005982)
dlphg9 is just trolling.


Williams is the best receiving RB we have.
CEH is is best at slipping through between the guards
Gore has the best vision

Both Gore and Williams are better at breaking runs.

CEH had a couple pretty good runs against the Raiders today.

The problem is, we tell a defense what the play is going to be if we only use the RB for what they are best at.

All this talk doesn't matter, Andy is going to use CEH because he drafted him in the 1st round. It will take several years before he moves on.
Lol coming to clown up my thread with your dipshittery?

What exactly am I trolling? You kinda said in your post what I said in OP. Williams is the best catching back and that's why I said he should be a 3rd down back and Gore is a bigger threat to break a big run. Also Williams is not more explosive than CEH. Williams is the worst RB at running it. He's not even close to CEH or Gore. ,

-King- 12-12-2021 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16005848)
Let me ask you if Mahomes was averaging less yard per throw on average but Henne had this one great throw for a 90 yard TD in mop up time would you feel the same?

With 10X the runs he still has a way better average per run. I mean you can be stupid if you want to continue to be stupid.
I already said they're both below average. I'm not saying Gore is better but...he did do something that CEH in hundreds more carries hasn't.

BWillie 12-13-2021 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16005381)
Also, there is such a thing as being motivated by others believing in you.

Clyde has looked great in several games this year. In this game, he was statistically beat out by two backups. But guess what… that shit happens all the time.

Players should always be playing for their jobs, but if they feel like the coaching staff is just going to make arbitrary changes based tiny out of context sample sizes, that doesn’t produce trust with coaches and it’s bad for team chemistry.

Andy Reid understands this. Just calm your tits about Gore. And for ****’s sake… Clyde isn’t some Mike Cloud bum. He’s a fine RB.
Clyde had two majestic TD runs in this game.

BlackOp 12-13-2021 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16006045)
Clyde had two majestic TD runs in this game.
Majestic?

Is that like when that doctor on Seinfeld called the ugly baby "breathtaking"?

CEH doesn't take that run to the house...is what it is...he has a 1st round contract...Gore doesn't.

Chris Meck 12-13-2021 04:03 AM
I like Gore, I do, but there's a whole lot of stupid in this thread.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-13-2021 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16005804)
I mean CEH has had what 30 games now to have a run like that and hasn't? So, I don't buy that.
I think Henne is a master at handing the ball off and CEH hasn't played with Henne.

BlackOp 12-13-2021 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16006061)
I like Gore, I do, but there's a whole lot of stupid in this thread.
Well...the fact the CEH has been "underwhelming" given his draft status opens up the debate. He's not terrible but he's just kind of there...serviceable is about the best word to describe him. Damien Williams was just as productive.

These types of threads didnt happen when Charles was playing...his on the field impact was tangible. Chiefs chose the wrong RB in CEH's draft....at least for being the 1st RB taken.

If he had been a 3rd or 4th rounder...it would be easier to accept. He was picked to take this offense to a new level...not break even.

Chiefs didn't really lose a beat when he was injured...

Tribal Warfare 12-13-2021 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16006067)

Chiefs didn't really lose a beat when he was injured...
Hence JAG qualifier

crispystl 12-13-2021 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16005945)
He's literally faster than Gore.

Not in pads he isn’t.


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