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JPH83 03-13-2023 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16852369)
I posted that before I saw how much. He's definitely the LT.

It's basically too much if he's RT, too much if he's not above average at LT, but a pretty good deal if he's around Brown's competence at pass-pro at LT....UNLESS Brown only gets a tick more. Just have to wait and see

RunKC 03-13-2023 12:29 PM

From PFF

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Taylor had a career year as a pass protector, earning his highest pass-blocking grade with a 76.4 mark that landed him in the top 25 among tackles on the year. Taylor allowed pressure on just 2.5% of dropbacks, the third-lowest mark among tackles in the NFL

Titty Meat 03-13-2023 12:30 PM

PFF is garbage quit posting it

RealSNR 03-13-2023 12:30 PM

Would rather pay this guy 60 mill guaranteed than whatever it was OBJ was asking

Tribal Warfare 03-13-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16852383)
What was JJSS, MVS, Dunlap, and Watson's PFF grade before KC signed them? I have confidence in this GM, team, and coaching staff.

Just saying, Walker Little was the starting LT for the Jags

comochiefsfan 03-13-2023 12:31 PM

I mean I trust Veach.

This guy had a lower PFF grade than Wylie last year though.

New World Order 03-13-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 16852340)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jawaan Taylor gave up just 5 sacks and committed 7 penalties in 2022 in 1,095 snaps played. <a href="https://t.co/EuVorhWomD">pic.twitter.com/EuVorhWomD</a></p>&mdash; Farzin Vousoughian (@Farzin21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Farzin21/status/1635345039806328832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jawaan Taylor allowed pressure on just 2.5% of dropbacks, the third-lowest mark among tackles in the NFL.</p>&mdash; mvpfr (@mvpfrr) <a href="https://twitter.com/mvpfrr/status/1635344235053604864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So why the low grade on PFF?

Is he a horrible run blocker or something?

JPH83 03-13-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16852395)
I mean I trust Veach.

This guy had a lower PFF grade than Wylie last year though.

Much higher pass protection

JPH83 03-13-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16852396)
So why the low grade on PFF?

Is he a horrible run blocker or something?

Yeah, that's the knock

Titty Meat 03-13-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16852395)
I mean I trust Veach.

This guy had a lower PFF grade than Wylie last year though.

Oh no PFF say he bad but GM who's been to 3 super bowls in 4 years pays him 60 million. Wonder who I'd believe

dirk digler 03-13-2023 12:32 PM

His stats are based on playing RT not LT. That is a huge transition if that is the plan. Not really a fan of this but have to believe in Veach\Reid.

oldman 03-13-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16852334)
That said - I wouldn't have paid him this much. $20 million per is a hell of a gamble on a LT conversion.

What did we give up for Brown? Yeah, yeah, he played LT a few games for the Ravens the year before, but he was still a RT.

New World Order 03-13-2023 12:34 PM

What is OBJ's ranking in pass protection compared to Taylor's?

DJ's left nut 03-13-2023 12:34 PM

Guess I should just put these here since I was on the record already.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16839739)
Calling my shot - Jawaan Taylor signs a long-term deal here. We draft another OT in the 1st and the off-season becomes a competition between those 2, Niang and a 'reliable veteran' of the Wylie/Remmers mold (i.e. cheap and experienced) to see who starts, who becomes the primary swing and who sweats out the final cutdown day to see how many OTs we carry into week 1.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16839881)
Jawaan Taylor is our LT next year...

Makes all the sense in the world.

I'd pay him $17-18 million/season on a deal that is essentially a 3 year deal with 'options' to take it out to 5 on us (He's only 25 right now).

So how do we do this....

5 years, $90 million. Signing bonus of $25 million. Base salaries of $2/$8 and $13 million in years 1-3 (giving him $48 million in the first 3 seasons). Salaries of $18 and $24 million in years 4 and 5.

So:

$25 million bonus
$2, 8, 13, 18, 24 in salaries in years 1-5.

If he makes the transition to LT, that year 4 number is probably still wholly reasonable by then and if he makes it well, year 5 is at least tolerable enough to leverage into a restructure or play on it outright.

If he's stuck at RT you have cap hits for your RT of $7 million, $13 million and $18 million over 3 seasons before you probably cut him loose with a June 1 designation and split that $10 million in dead money over a couple years.

I could live with that. There's a reasonable ceiling and a high floor. Some value baked in if everything goes really well, a makeable escape hatch if it doesn't.

Now I can either take victory laps or eat shit. Or more likely, obfuscate a lot.

O.city 03-13-2023 12:34 PM

Didn't Taylor play LT in college?


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