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Sassy Squatch 02-10-2025 07:07 PM
Hindsight being 50/50 and all, Hopkins ended up being a complete waste of time. Dude was washed and I really wish they would've used that pick on Cam Robinson instead just for the factor of knowing whether he'd continue to be mediocre to bad here or if he had a higher ceiling so we could possibly extend him.

Chiefspants 02-10-2025 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17963571)
Lack of separation outside of Worthy and sometimes Hollywood outside of schemed passes was quietly one of the biggest reasons we lost.

This is really really bad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> fans that want to see it here is the high 50 view of all the passing plays from the game yesterday. For those that don&#39;t want to view, I get it but I made it one clip so it isn&#39;t a ton of breakdowns all over your timeline. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/0o9ZNVWwea">pic.twitter.com/0o9ZNVWwea</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1889084807180681689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yikes. I’m going to hope that’s a personnel issue and not a scheme issue.

Fishpicker 02-10-2025 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17961678)
We still got dumb bitches in here talking about not giving up on Kingsley.

Bret has had one great draft and that's it.
We shouldn't give up on Kingsley. He can develop. I remember Fisher looked like dog shit for several years. Even at right tackle he looked bad

FloridaMan88 02-10-2025 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17963611)
Yikes. I’m going to hope that’s a personnel issue and not a scheme issue.
JuJu, Kelce, and Hopkins are old and slow… that’s a personnel issue.

But schematically it seemed like the Andy/Nagy were giving Mahomes very few hot reads to bail him out as he was pressured… instead the receivers were almost always 10-15 yards downfield not even looking for the ball.

BWillie 02-10-2025 07:32 PM
I would get rid of Nagy and get new blood. I realize it probably doesn't matter and it is Reids baby but it is what it is.

crispystl 02-10-2025 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17963571)
Lack of separation outside of Worthy and sometimes Hollywood outside of schemed passes was quietly one of the biggest reasons we lost.

This is really really bad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> fans that want to see it here is the high 50 view of all the passing plays from the game yesterday. For those that don&#39;t want to view, I get it but I made it one clip so it isn&#39;t a ton of breakdowns all over your timeline. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/0o9ZNVWwea">pic.twitter.com/0o9ZNVWwea</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1889084807180681689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Man, that pick at 2:00 is terrible. I just don't know wtf Mahomes saw there.

FloridaMan88 02-10-2025 07:37 PM
Veach previously said that the Chiefs free agency will be the draft this upcoming offseason… not sure if that changes given how desperately they need a LT.

seamonster 02-10-2025 07:41 PM
All the underneath routes were zone coverage. Kelce and Juju are assassins at pick plays and zone busting but that takes timing and you can't have timing when the left tackle is a severe historic liability. I see nothing wrong with the scheme.

RunKC 04-28-2025 03:34 PM
it feels like their mission with this draft was to fix all of this mess. Man I am so happy.

We didn’t have a RB on this team last year that had juice like Elijah Mitchell or Brashard Smith. Our depth WR was 50 year old Hopkins or knee replacement merchant Juju. Thank God.

If Simmons is the guy we’re sold this offense is scoring a lot of points again.

Coogs 04-28-2025 06:26 PM
We will never know, but that 3rd play of the game for the offense could have been a game changer. If Kelce hangs on, maybe we were coming back with a run after 2 quick 1st downs, and things may have broken open for the offense?

I've felt that way on game day. I still feel that way today.

Coochie liquor 04-28-2025 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 18049130)
We will never know, but that 3rd play of the game for the offense could have been a game changer. If Kelce hangs on, maybe we were coming back with a run after 2 quick 1st downs, and things may have broken open for the offense?

I've felt that way on game day. I still feel that way today.
There were 4-5 players that would have given us a little momentum and could have changed things. But it seemed every single time we had a chance, the receivers couldn’t make the catch. It was the same way in the Bucs SB too. The inability to gain any kind of momentum killed us until the other team could put the game out of reach.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2025 09:14 PM
The offense went from #1 in the NFL to mediocre since Nagy arrived.

That's not a coincidence. Watch the Bears "highlights" under Nagy and what they have Mahomes doing over here.

Same crap.

BossChief 04-29-2025 02:34 AM
Simmons
Royals
Moore
Rice
Hollywood
Smith
Pacheco
Hollywood

Crazy that we are basically adding all this talent to last years offense. And I’m probably missing a couple guys.

Otter 04-29-2025 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18049367)
Simmons
Royals
Moore
Rice
Hollywood
Smith
Pacheco
Hollywood

Crazy that we are basically adding all this talent to last years offense. And I’m probably missing a couple guys.

Hollywood so good he cannot make it past the first play of a preseason game you named him twice?

Moore? More what?

Womble 04-29-2025 03:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Otter (Post 18049368)
Hollywood so good he cannot make it past the first play of a preseason game you named him twice?

Moore? More what?
He is talking about Jaylon Moore. He used the word "talent" and that clearly rules out Skyy because he does not possess any.


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