Probably not, but there is a downside, and that is being inexperienced.

What's your point? As long as he gets Florida another NC or two, who gives a shit?

BTW, Jerry Jones seems to think Tebow has what it takes to play in the NFL. I trust his judgment a little more than yours. ;)

Vince Young was an awesome college player, spread offense and all that...in the NFL not so much. I thought he would have to switch positions....we'll see. I'd say he's a better prospect than our QB's but that's like picking between dog and cat shit.


Some conferences can't have championship games, the Big 10/11 and the Pac 10 don't have 12 teams so they can't have them.

Can you guarantee OSU is good enough to be guaranteed win their conference? If not, then it's not fair they don't have to play in a CCG.

I think all conferences should be required to have a championship.

Think about it this way....would you allow a school to only play 11 games? A team playing in a CCG HAS to play an extra game. If you make a team play an extra game, why is it not reasonable to allow them to play 1 less?

Considering the class of QB's in the next few years....he has the physical tools he's 6'4 230...he's gonna get picked in the 1st round by someone. He isn't one of the midget spread guys.

Well, would it be a good idea for those conferences to get another team, so that they can have their conference championship? I mean, the downside is that a number 1 or 2 team can lose.

But then, the upside is that the revenue for the conference would be tremendous, as well as the championship site as well.

Geuax Tigers!

If they didn't have a game Missouri would play in it?

When OSU lost to Illinois, they dropped to 7th. Everyone kept losing. They backed into the title game. No doubt. As I have said, the system is flawed. Play-offs...

Hrmm..so Jerry Jones is looking to pick up a slow 6'4" running back that passes sometimes...nice. That'll work well for the 'Boys.

Better look over your shoulder Romo, Tebow's on the way. I really like the fact Jones likes Tebow, they should really consider drafting him..with their first pick here in a couple years.

He hasn't gotten them one, yet. Chris Leak got them one, though.

It's up to them but who are they gonna add? Who can the Big 10 add...the Pac 10 would have to add 2, I don't really wanna see bottom feeders like San Diego State or San Jose State in the conference who aren't good at any sport.

I have no doubt he'll go high in the draft...for gods sake, we're talking about guys like Longshore being top prospects as well.

Tebow scored twice in the NC game (pass & run). We also would not have beaten Tennessee without Tebow and he played a big role against LSU.

Or eliminate them all. Its only played for money...

TD SEC!

I'd just have to choose the cat shit that can stay inside the pocket and read NFL style defenses over the dog shit that runs outside and gets stomped on.

Well, there is somebody from the Conference of USA that they probably can get over. Or at least try to convince ND to get out of the independent status (Although, very unlikely)

As much as you don't want the bottom feeders, the Big XII does have their own unfortunately. It is Baylor and one of the teams in the North, depending on how the north is created up.

I didn't word that very well.

After Missouri beat Kansas, we were 11-1 and ranked No. 1. Ohio State was also 11-1 at that point. Missouri played an additional game, and lost. Ohio State lurked, waited, and risked nothing.

It was unfair for Ohio State (AND KANSAS) to benefit from playing one less game. Sorry, but that's just fucked.

I like how having the 2nd highest passer efficiency rating in college football, throwing for more than 3,000 yards and 30TDs is passing sometimes. LMAO He still has 2 more years to get even better!

so, will there be a 10yr ban on OSU playing in the BCS?

Bo Pelini can't believe his team might finish in fourth place next season.

Have you met Mustain's mother yet?

There's the "over" for anyone who bet even at the peak of the book.

We'd basically have to take 2 teams from the WAC...I'm not sure how many of those teams would even want to be in the Pac 10 where they likely couldn't compete.

ND is never gonna stop being an independent so the Big 10 would get some garbage school I don't even know off hand who they could grab.

Pete Carroll isn't Houston Nutt.....so I doubt we'll have those problems. Nutt basically lied to those Springdale kids about the offense they were going to be running and all sorts of things. Notice that coach and all those players took off.

That's not mentioning that when he graduated high school he broke the FL state all-time passing record. People who think the guy can't throw the ball are full of shit.

Leak was the starting QB the entire game/season and Tebow was a gimmick player last year. I'm pretty sure that UF would have beaten OSU without Tebow doing gimmick plays for them and I'm also fairly certain that UF could have converted that 4th and 1 against UT without Tebow.

Apparently being really angry isn't enough.

Wow.. 5 BCS Bowls, 4 blowouts.


And the only people who saw this coming were all the fans and media.

Possibly Fresno might join in. Either way, the prestige in the Pac 10 is greater than the WAC. There's always someone from the MWC.

As for the independent issue, I think the NCAA needs to get that toughened up and tell the independents to get on a real conference. As for the who the Big 10 would pick, there's Mid-American Conference, there's Conference of USA, etc.

Plenty of choices to choose from. More than likely, they will pick the best top 3 teams in their respective conferences.

No doubt, but Tebow contributed throughout the entire season. To say otherwise is insane. He wasn't a guy who got a ring by riding the bench.

About Tennessee, I don't know. DeShawn Wynn probably would have just fumbled it.

Yea let's get tough and watch everyone freak out that they are gonna make ND do something...there's still to many old media people that think ND is "it" to college football to try this without major backlash.

ND probably makes by themselves what whole conferences do since they get to do all their deals by themselves....no wonder they don't wanna be in a conference and share profits.

Hey, I was right about the Ohio State and Illinois games that they both were gonna get pounded. I was also leaning on WV over OU in a big way, since OU couldn't seem to stop a spread offense (See Texas Tech)

I was wrong about Hawaii. I expected them to performed better than that. They bombed me. That was my only blemish.

The KU/VT game was probably the most entertating game.

Congrats to OSU extending their streak to 0-9 against SEC teams in bowl games! :thumb:

They can have Missouri.

Here's the link to some old story about ND. Apparently they make $4.5 million on years they make it to a BCS bowl, and $1 million when they don't.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7659924/

I think MU/KU/USC/Georgia would have been more suitable for this game then OSU. There needs to be a damn playoff!

If you can't beat 'em, send 'em off to another conference. :D

Worst. Bowl Season. Ever.

I got the chance to meet Gary when he played TE at Kent State (Don James was the coach back then, and Jack Lambert played MLB on that team, wearing #99). I'm a big fan, and I wish this had been his year. I'll back him as long as he's in the game.

Before the bowls started, I figured the best thing about KU/VTech was that it was either going to be 'just another BCS blowout' or the best game of the BCS season.

I thought OSU, Illinois, Hawaii, WVU (I'm not much for the Big East), and Kansas would all get blown out... I was obviously very wrong about WVU, and I'm glad I was wrong about Kansas. :)

Edit: My real thought on Kansas was that they lucked out in getting VTech... I knew it was Kansas' best possible matchup, but in the end gave into the 'can't play with the big boys' hype.

Well, it's not like his year sucked or anything. Best team/season we've had in decades. Maybe we can get to that next level next year.

Missouri has flirted with the Big 10 before but maybe you didn't know that. And we have little trouble beating MU. In football it is about even and we are waaay ahead in BB.

no doubt...terrible matchups, terrible games....

Florida/UM was fun to watch just for the bitchslap

and VT/KU was close and competative...the rest were blowouts...

Believe me....I'm a HUGE ND fan and I'm pissed they won't move to a real conference.

Yeah, and they only have to win like 4 games to make it into a BCS bowl. ;)

They get more of a free pass than the Big 10, and they haven't won a bowl in like 10 years.

In football - not lately. Certainly not on November 24, when it really, truly mattered.

In basketball - people who aren't from Kansas really don't care all that much. I know you have a hard time wrapping your mind around that. Personally, I don't really care about a game that women can play as easily as men.

I know KU can play anybody, that a no doubter. I was wondering who KU might play was the question. If they were to play USC, that would have been a very tough tough tough challenge. But once I found out that it was VT, I knew KU has a chance, becuase of VT's ineptness on offense.

BTW - congratulations to LSU, and with the exception of the dick who started this thread, my condolences to the OSU fans.

Just your opinion. The Dance is far more popular than anything football has. Even better than the Super Bowl. It is my favorite event by far.

If you only mean this year and last year as lately, okay. But Kansas won the previous 3 and it's been pretty even for the last decade or two.

I hope it's the beginning of many big games...

If I had known they hadn't improved since watching them barely beat ECU and getting raped vs. LSU in September, I would have been much more optimistic.

Without being a homer, off the top of my head, when I think of some of the most storied and respected programs in basketball, I think: UCLA, North Carolina, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, Indiana, Georgetown, UConn.

KU is respected nationally on that level. That's something you can't say for Mizzou football, and probably won't be able to for a very, very long time.

It's almost even throughout the long, long series. I think it is the longest football rivalry west of the Mississippi.

VICTORY FOR LSU!

FUGGN A!

I will gladly accept that sig bet NOW (as previously stated)!

I will PM your NEW sig in the a.m.

L8TR!

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I maintained all along that the KU/VT game would be the closest and most exciting of the bowls.

The people that said VT would blow out KU clearly hadn't watched enough of the two teams play this year.

Where is kcchiefsfanGoLJ now?

BUMP

I talked NO smack at all - the field did the talking.

Chiefaroo bragged the other day that Wichita State beat you guys in BB this year. Are you guys really that shitty in BB?

Again, I don't give a shit about basketball. Granted, I'll have a chuckle whenever you run into whoever is this year's Bucknell, but when it comes to watching a sport, basketball means next to nothing to me. I've been to three or four games in my life, and the last one I attended featured Michael Jordan wearing a Bulls uniform.

I grew up somewhere that had professional football and baseball teams. Sorry.

Haha. Baseball is soooo much more entertaining than basketball. You probably care just a little bit about it when MU plays KU. And I bet you'd care quite a bit more than you might expect if MU were to miraculously sweep KU.

Of course I hope MU beats KU. Doesn't matter whether they're playing football or baseball or bingo. But again, I DON'T CARE ABOUT BASKETBALL. Not the center of my universe. Not the center of most universes.

You don't care about basketball because MU has no BB program. March Madness > all.

Just have to add that basketball is a far more popular sport worldwide than football is.

I love you Kansas types posting on a FOOTBALL BB crowing about how basketball is the greatest thing ever. :whackit:

I lived in Chicago during the 90s. If that didn't turn me on to basketball, nothing will.

I am not a fan of BB - Yes they SUCK! LOL!

Man, reading some of the garbage in the early posts in this thread was almost as entertaining as Ohio State getting clowned by the SEC ... again.

Gotta love it when a few morons make their fluffy little statements after a few minutes of play ("so much for the SEC speed"), and are nowhere to be found when the SEC is just beating the shit out of Ohio State an hour later.

Haha, did you miss your snack again? Yes we got beat, yes it was a bad and ugly game. First and foremost we were there because teams couldn't finish their season. I don't care who you are, WV losing to Pitt is one of the biggest embarrasments I have seen. So we sat and watch all these "great" teams lose and lose their shot at the NC.

I was afraid this might happen. Light I was talking to Stryker, our biggest weakness is what killed us in the end. Just the youth and inexperience of our WR's, RB's, TE's, on offense is just killer. Just the youth and inexperience was hurting us, our WR's just were not getting open, Beanie played very good, and Saine is going to be a great player. We just didn't have the veteran WR to take over.

I was looking at Boeckman, and just thought he better play well for us to stay in the game, and he didn't. For a rebuilding year we did pretty good, were still really young, we will loose a lot to the draft, but we should be able to fill those shoes pretty well. This team this year was just not a National Champion caliber, and we played one that was. LSU beat us and beat us pretty good. At the end of the day the most disappointing thread was not that we lost or didn't play well. It was the amount of personal fouls, it's bad enough when your getting beat, but when you have to be that dumb, it's embarrassing as a fan, when you hear personal foul for the 5th time. I was disappointed in the lack of discipline of a Jim T. team, losing one's thing but losing and still keeping your respect is another. I will admit the Big 10 was down this year, but if we go undefeated next year you can't argue that, with a win @USC. Hopefully we will be in the hunt next year, and it wouldn't hurt to land Pryor :) .

My buddy (an OSU fan) returns to work today from New Orleans. He'll find his cube a mess of purple & yellow streamers, all the way up to the ceiling. It's filled with yellow & purple balloons and newspaper clippings all over the walls. His whiteboard is filled with words and LSU and SEC is spelled out all over the place from all different items.

I'm sure he'll appreciate it. :)

OSU and marijuana are a lot alike, they both get smoked in bowls!



OSU's record against SEC in bowl games...

I don't like LSU or the SEC, but nothing's sweeter than Ohio State losing.

Enjoy