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I wasn't happy with the call, but it's not why they lost the game... the failed onside kick absolutely crushed the team's will to live... giving that team half the field and then they score a TD, that was the dumbest call I have seen in a long time.

The play that hurt you guys the most, IMO was the first fumble on the first drive.

I think McDaniels gave up on the run too early. We ran the ball like 9 straight times to start the game and got into the redzone... First pass we call Simms fumbles.

And as soon as the Chargers got the lead it seemed like we completely got away from the run. :shake:

Whenever I think I have the Broncos fans pegged (KnowMo), big brother with reason and sensibility (You) have to step in and piss all over it. :cuss:

LMAO Awesome

I hate onside kicks.:cuss:

Nope, to me it was the failed onside kick... if I recall correctly, Denver just made it 13-3 and the defense had been playing ok. Denver's offense hadn't been horrible, they had moved down the field... but the turnovers sucked. Giving them the short field at that point in time was insanity to me... they do what everyone feared and scored a TD, making it 20-3... that is just exponentially worse than 13-3 in the 3rd quarter.

If you guys were up 7-0 on us like it looked like would happen, we wouldn't have tried to establish any kind of run game at all. Not that we can't win when we are 1 dimensional in just passing the ball, but you would have had a much better shot.

THIS is exactly why I HATE Denver. :clap:

The onside kick killed everything. Bad decision.

Weird. I don't have any hatred for the Chiefs. :hmmm:

Well, sure... but even down 13-3 after getting the early 2nd half score, momentum was slowly moving to Denver. Overall, Denver's defense was doing a nice job keeping SD out of the endzone... Rivers wasn't lighting them up and a good portion of the 200+ rushing yards were after the TD that put SD up by 17.

So, even with the turnovers and sitting at 13-3... it was still a ball game that could have been won, Denver had overcome several second half deficits early in the year... but, to fall down by 17 after that horrible decision... that took the wind out.

Most Denver fans I encounter are Arrogant, entitled cockbags who blame all losses on officials. Oh, and NEWSFLASH! Your last SB win was last decade, not year. Stop pretending every year you're going back to the SB.

No shit. The carriage-pulling team of Mr. Ed and Seabiscuit have long since left for the glue factory.

http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_13862319

Only good things can happen after a players only meeting:)

I wonder where Orton was...

I'm sure him and Dawkins were the two most vocal players in the meeting.

And a mile-high circle jerk to a cut-out of Pat Bowlen was enjoyed by all.

The Chargers had a Players Only Meeting before they hosted the Chiefs in 2007.

I'm not sure there is any concrete evidence of success as a result these meetings. About the only thing that you can say is that the problems were/are worse than thought.

Yeah I remember that. Hopefully Denver can win the rest of their games too.:D

Um...

They lost to the Chiefs, bad.

LT called a team meeting for the Chargers in the middle of last season. I didn't see you said 2007.

:rolleyes: Gee, I wish the Chiefs would have a players only meeting. Surely they'd run the table...

LMAO Seattle should have one; all things are possible with Jesus Curry.

The Royals had about 182 players' only meetings.

Yeah, but they held theirs at the 'Shady Lady'.

I think I'm going to start calling KnowMo "First Violinist Wallace Hartley."

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Go Giants!:clap:

https://twitter.com/fs3142/status/6344790667

https://twitter.com/BroncoTalk/status/6340523336

I guess Ryan Harris is finally coming back from his injury. We have been missing our 2nd team All Pro Right Tackle :)

https://twitter.com/Footz95/status/6379888843

Arrowhead is going to be crawling with Bronco fans! :evil:

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No problem; I'm sure maintenance put plenty of Roach Motels out in anticipation of your arrival.

Crawling with donkhole fans?Yeah we like them on their knees like the beeyatches they are.ROFL

Because tons of Chiefs fans would be coming from Denver.

**** off, clown.

Also, Peter King doesn't rule on all-pro's, genius.

I thought both Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris were named second team All Pro's. My bad it was just Ryan Clady.

Bring on the drizzle!

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Wait, the drizzle might take some zip off Cassels 4 yard passes......Damnit!

http://twitter.com/psmyth12/status/6436686689

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kindly just **** off.

Which has more to do with Jim Caldwell.

Jim Caldwell can thank Peyton Manning for his record. You could put any coach on that team and they would still make the playoffs.

If Denver can somehow find a way to win this week, I'll allow myself to get excited about the notion of them possibly making playoff noise... maybe even if they look just very damn good in a close loss. But, we'll see.

It's going to be a long day... that defense needs to make Peyton crazy and somehow contain those receivers.

Well, you did start the kid his very own thread.

Peyton Manning is the only player in the NFL that scares the piss out of me. Hopefully the Colts ownership of the Broncos left with Mike Shanahan.

Well, in regards to the game... while anything can happen, reality says the Colts win this game. Overall, they're the better team and it's in their house.

Each week, you see teams win games they shouldn't and vice versa... so, unless DEN plays like they did during the 0-4 streak, I think I'll be happy win or lose. It's an incredibly tough place to play.

Since 2006, the Colts are 27-4 at home...

Now the Colts are 13-2 at home since 2008, losing only 2 games last season... and one of those was to Orton and the Bears. So, at least Orton has been a part of beating Indy at their place, and it will take a performance much like they had against the Giants to make it happen.

Bill Polian on the Broncos

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Well, in fairness... he's not going to say anything negative.

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Denver is now 2 games back of SD.

**** yourself, KnowShit. Maybe Bill Polian can give you more praise that you can post.

That upswing against KC was just pre-atmospheric turbulence. The re-entry to Earth continues, and KnowMo STILL hasn't fitted Orton's ass-cheeks with fire-reerunant armor-plating.

Enh, they're still looking at 10 wins and a playoff spot...

"Damn him, damn Mile High Mania, DAMN THAT MAN"!

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Denver has 2 extremely tough home games left. I doubt there will be anything left after fighting through the rest of their ferocious schedule.

Philly will be an easy win, though. I just don't see Denver matching up well against KC and the fade. The talent divide is just too much for them to handle, and add the amazing QB play of both teams they will be facing and the scenario is the equivalent to a nightmare you can't wake up from.

It doesn't matter really. Denver is going to get someones foot broke off in their ass in the playoffs and the fact is Orton is no long term answer.

How does Denver stack up in the wildcard race? Can they be the next 10 win team to not make it in?

Funny, last year all they needed was 8 and they blew it.

Yes, that was an epic meltdown fail for them last year.

How does it feel knowing that 50 of the players on the Chiefs active roster plus the HC and the GM aren't the longterm answer?

Orton should get a contract extension he is playing very well.

I certainly hope he does.

This would be great news for the rest of the NFL.

Wouldn't it though?

You guys type as if Orton is playing like Cassel right now...

I don't know how all the tiebreakers work out, but it looks something similar to this... I believe.

1 - Colts (13-0)
2 - Chargers (10-3)
3 - Bengals (9-4)
4 - Patriots (8-5)
5 - Broncos (8-5)
6 - There are 4 teams tied at 7-6, the Jags were in control until they lost yesterday. Dolphins, Jaguars, Ravens and Jets are all tied at 7-6.

The Steelers, Titans and Texans are trailing at 6-7.

Denver has the Raiders, @ PHI and the Chiefs left... they should win the two home games and I think they have a shot at PHI, but that's a tall order.

Miami has: @ TEN / HOU / PIT
Jags have: IND / @ NE / @ CLE
BAL has: CHI / @ PIT / @ OAK
NYJ have: ATL / @ IND / CIN

Denver can very realistically reach 10 wins and this means that 2 of the 4 7 win teams have to go 3-0. Someone could, maybe Baltimore.. possibly Miami, but I doubt it.

Orton this season is much like Cassel last season.

He's not horrible by any means, he's done quite well ... completing 62.9% of his passes, for 2,904 yards with 16 TDs and 8 INTs. And, that's pretty well on pace with what I thought he would do this season.

This team isn't winning a SB this year and that's fine... it's baby steps and they continue to show improvement. The team has their issues at times, but there are definitely a number of positive pieces to build upon.

Some people just need to realize you have your elite few QBs in the NFL... another 3-4 in the 2nd tier and then another 7-10 guys fighting it out in that third tier. The guys in that 3rd tier don't suck.

I wasn't really knocking Orton. Cassel played well last season. He had some weapons. Same as Orton this season. Put Orton on the Chiefs and you'd see a completely different QB...

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Mc Dickhole coached donkholes choke like the 90's Bills.
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No doubt he is a servicable QB that plays very well at times. He makes Cassel look like a Jr. High QB.

But is he the kind of QB who will take the Broncos to the ultimate game and win it? Striving for anything less is a waste. IMO he is not that guy, but a good QB that will win a bunch of season games and maybe a PO game or two.

But Orton out played Man...........STFU
We almost came back................STFU
We held them to........................STFU
End of the game Colts W.Donkholes L
Teams you should beat to prove you are contenders prove yet again that you and your cake boy HC are nothing but pretenders.

I'm not going to take anything away from the Broncos. They damn near came back on the Colts yesterday after being down 3 TD's. That's impressive.

Having said that, it would be fun to knock them out in Week 17, wouldn't it?

Give to them nothing! Take from them EVERYTHING!

Obviously, every team strives to win the SB... the majority of teams in the NFL are void of an elite QB, so it's not like Denver is in the odd position of just lacking a top 5 QB. Orton didn't lose the game for them yesterday...

There is something missing from McD's game planning, I just don't see him making great decisions when it matters more often than not. I know he's learning and growing into the role of HC, but when you have a team with Marshall, Royal, Gaffney, Stokely, Moreno, Bucky, Hillis, Scheffler, Graham... c'mon, get creative.

Why does the short game suck when you have those types of options? Repeated calls of running up the gut on 3rd and short... at some point, suck it up and call something different.

Some of you will say "It's Orton, give him another QB and he'd do something different." I think that's crap... Orton has played very well, he didn't cost them the game yesterday.

As I mentioned in another post...

Peyton, Brady, Brees -these are your top QBs
Rivers, Favre, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Eli, Warner, McNabb - these are the guys in that next group for me.

Your next QBs are all jumbled together... Schaub, Romo, Flacco, Palmer, Cutler, Orton, Ryan - say what you will, but I don't think these guys are at that elite or almost elite status. Rivers made that leap when you look at last year and this season. Rodgers has made that leap as well.

But, I think you have your top 10 QBs and then your next best 7 or so... and that is where I put Orton, right there in the mix with those other guys. You can make arguments for who is 10 and who is 17... but, this is my "rough stab" at a three tier grouping.

The bitterman is strong in this one. Jealousy eating him alive.

Trent Dilfer is a great example of why you don't need an elite QB to win the SB.
Dan Marino is a great example of how an elite QB doesn't guarantee you a SB win.
It sure doesn't hurt to have one though.
I think Orton suits the Donks system quite well despite the odd relapse into his Bears days.

The Colts are 13-0 for a reason, they're very damn good and the foundation of their team has been in place for a long time.

The Broncos lost to a Steelers team before they unraveled and lost to a good Ravens team in Baltimore. They split with a very good Chargers team and really only crapped the bed when they lost to the Redskins.

So, Denver has 5 losses...
Colts have 13 wins
Chargers have 10 wins
Ravens have 7 wins
Steelers now look bad at 6-7 and the Redskins are bad at 4-9

I'll take 8-5 with a chance of winning 10 overall, especially considering everything that happened from the firing of Shanahan to the suspension of Marshall. I do realize that KnoMo has gone off the deep end a lot, but I think the vast majority of Broncos' fans had pretty realistic expectations and most are very surprised and happy to see the team in the position to reach 10 wins and the playoffs.

If Denver advances and wins a game in the playoffs - fantastic! If they lose a game, so be it.... continued improvement is all I've asked for and I think I'm seeing it. The team will have a TON of player decisions and new contracts to focus on before 2010, so it will be interesting, but the foundation appears to be in place and I like the direction.

Hell, I would love a scenario that sends Denver to NE for the wildcard game...

Elite QBs are great to have, obviously... but most of them bring a well balanced team to the game when they win it. Elway was 0-3 in the SB before they had a complete team around him. Peyton never got there until the defense cemented improved. Brady likely won't get back with the defense they have right now. Same goes for Eli and Big Ben.

Brees... he's been great for a while and it hasn't been until this season when their defense was remade that his chances truly look realistic. Rivers is playing at a very high level right now... can their team continue to do well? We'll see.

Obviously teams have a better shot when the QB is elite... but, some dismiss Orton as if he's a spare. The guy should finish with 3,500 or so yards, about 20 TDs and 10 INTs. Those are numbers very much like that of Roethlisberger from 2008 when they won the title... he had 3300 yds, 17 TDs and 15 INTs.

In 2007, Eli's team won the title and he was a mere 3300 yards passing with 23 TDs and 20 INTs.

Eli and Ben are considered by most to be among the best of the best right now... but, in 2007 and 2008, neither of them was statistically on fire when their teams won. They played very well when it mattered... Orton has done pretty much the same thing and his turnovers are much less than Eli's were that year and on par with Roethlisberger from 2008.

If Denver can advance... they're success or lack thereof, will rely heavily on the QB, but let's not discount the the impact of the ground game and the defense.

In the second quarter yesterday through the early part of the 4th, Denver's defense did all they could to stop Peyton... and they nearly pulled off the comeback. Oh well... it happens, but this team isn't in dire straights and the near/long-term future looks good.

The Broncos control their own destiny. How many people would have thought that with 3 games left. Your coach needs to get more imaginative with the playcalling. Instead of just pounding the rock over and over and getting stuffed. He needs to switch it up. Orton is doing ok, but he has to be the reason Denver doesn't attack downfield. Maybe it will open up next season with him, but I think it's hurting your team right now. Also where is Hillis? Buck is out, yet your Coach continues to run with Moreno. You can see he's gassed and continues to stumble/trip/fall over his own feet. Why not run a rotation with the backs and keep them fresh? All and all, Denver is playing well and could have won the game yesterday. Be interesting if Denver plays NE in the wild card round if they make it.