So Washington was invited to the NFL combine so I would think someone in the NFL thought he had talent. I wonder how many players are invited to the combine and then never get called from an NFL team on being a free agent? Was it during the combine that NFL teams first found out about him being a sex offender? After the combine, where he put up really good numbers (see below), only one team, Dallas, came to his pro day workout. So is the NFL at work in keeping this kid out or are teams thinking this would be a PR nightmare?

He measured in at a shade over 6'6" and a lean 304 lbs. He usually plays closer to 310 to 315. He had the best broad jump of offensive linemen at 9'6" and his vertical was 9th at 29.5", so he has good athletic measurables. He put up 33 reps on the bench. He ran a 5.09 40 at his pro day.

CBSSports had him listed as the 14th best OT in the draft and said this about him...

Pass blocking: Tall, athletic build but not so lean as to be a hindrance. Quick set and feet after kick-slide. Likes to catch defenders, extend and punch to knock them off their move, but must go out and attack ends or they will get into his jersey quickly and push him back. Adept at coming off end to pick up tackle twists. Inconsistent knee bend; gets away with being upright against lesser competition. Typically remains in contact with defender around the pocket, but must finish more consistently to prevent secondary rushes. His anchor may be a concern against stronger, quicker NFL ends. Does not have to recoil and reset his hands often now, but has the quickness to do so. Can get lazy with his footwork on occasion, and can get out-hustled by high-motor defenders.

Run blocking: Usually plays from two-point stance, but shows some pop off the snap when his hand his down. Will battle his man through the whistle when locked up one-on-one, and is strong enough to drive him a few yards off the line of scrimmage. Seals the edge well when blocking down. Height works against him when he doesn't maintain knee bend; needs to work on bending his knees and staying low when drive blocking or in short-yardage situations. Will overextend and lose the hand battle when trying to punch defender instead of latching on to take him out of the play.

Pulling/trapping: Excellent feet for movement behind the line, although he has not been used in that manner very often. Inexperienced at cut blocks but is athletic enough to handle them. Has proven himself capable of adjusting to and hitting targets in space, though he will miss defenders coming quickly from inside. Needs to improve latching onto his man instead of simply extending to knock him out of the play.

Initial Quickness: Compares favorably with any player in the class in his initial quickness off the snap, both in pass pro and run-blocking. Has the strength to back defenders back or at least maintain the line of scrimmage.

Downfield: Exceptional quickness to the second level and looks like a tight end running in space. Can double down on tackle, then get five-seven yards downfield to help block on misdirection plays to his side. Destroys small college linebackers and safeties with a strong punch and initial arm extension, but does not always sustain well, allowing some defenders to defeat his hands and shed. Locks his eyes on one defender in space at times, will miss others with an angle to the play.

His play on the field has earned him many honors so he is not just good at doing athletic drills.

Maybe the Chiefs already feel they have all of the OTs that they need, but I think it is silly that some NFL team does not at least bring him in for a look in their mini-camps.

Tony Washington still waits

Posted by Mike Florio on April 29, 2010 6:17 PM ET

Before the draft, reports emerged that one of the best prospects in the pool, Tony Washington, had been convicted at age 16 of having sex with his biological sister. He spent two weeks in jail and, more importantly, is a registered sex offender.

Coincidentally (or not), the Abilene Christian tackle has been regarded as radioactive by the NFL, despite being viewed as a Day Two prospect.

But Washington wasn't drafted at all. Since Saturday, he hasn't even received an offer to sign with a team as an undrafted free agent.

"I'm in complete shock," agent Vann McElroy told Darren Rovell of CNBC. "I feel so bad for this kid. This is something that happened seven years ago and, probably because of the [Ben] Roethlisberger situation, he hasn't been called."

Frankly, we think the situation has a greater connection to the Dez Bryant situation. It's widely believed in league circles that Dolphins G.M. Jeff Ireland asked Bryant if his mother was a prostitute because Bryant inevitably will face similar (and worse) comments on the field and in the locker room.

Multiply that dynamic by 1,000 as to Tony Washington.

Then there's the reality that teams simply don't want to employ a guy who had sex with his sister. "Disgusting" was the word from one team before the draft. So while football talent ordinarily knows no discrimination, football coaches apparently have yet to embrace the notion of looking the other way when it comes to registered sex offenders.

Whether or not it's fair doesn't matter. Regardless of the specific reason for their aversion, Washington's past conduct lands in territory into which no NFL team is willing to throw a lifeline.

"We spent hours of our time, providing letters, testimonials from people to tell this kid's story," McElroy told Rovell. "It isn't like he's some pervert hanging around in the bushes. He's a good kid who screwed up, who since then was accepted by the board and admitted to one of the most conservative colleges out there. . . . Someone should give this kid a chance."

Eventually, someone will. If a grown man who was a convicted dogfighter and admitted dog killer deserves a second chance, a kid who did something really stupid does, too.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/

at least hes not banging his grandma.

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Similar story but a little different information -

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...on-a-shot.html

Rest of the story at - http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...on-a-shot.html

More and more it appears that most NFL front offices care more about the bottom line than about winning football games.

no...

they are probably like...

this sick sister ****er very well may be a good backup tackle...maybe even a starter someday...but he ****ed his sister...so someone else can have him.

I know that's what I'd be saying if I were a GM.

How is that a "no" to what I said?

Kansas City's 2010 Rookie Class' digits are locked in...

The Chiefs newest faces have all been distributed numbers for 2010. Here are the jersey numbers that Kansas City’s rookie class will wear, starting with this weekend’s rookie mini-camp.


#29 – Eric Berry

#22 – Dexter McCluster

#30 – Javier Arenas

#73 – Jon Asamoah

#81 – Tony Moeaki

#49 – Kendrick Lewis

#55 – Cameron Sheffield

#68 – Garrett Brown

#57 – Justin Cole

#89 – T.C. Drake

#69 – Tyler Eastman

#13 – Rich Gunnell

# 8 – Jeremy Horne-Murdock

#79 – Lemuel Jeanpierre

#93 – Michael Johnson

#35 – Tervaris Johnson

#74 – Nick Landry

#70 – Andrew Lewis


Jackie Bates will be switching from #22 to #41

-Bates should have gotten a nice payday
unless someone told Dexter #22 was going to be available in 5 months anyway

it means it has nothing to do with winning football games...and everything to do with the fact the dude ****ed his ****ing sister

I wouldn't want him in my lockerroom.

Exactly. That's what makes the situation so stupid.

:facepalm:

I'm sorry, I wouldn't want anything to do with that guy on my team.

That's some weirdass shit and if you've ever been in a locker room, you'd know someone like that could be very polarizing.

So many of these guys in the NFL are in the FCA and would frown upon a guy like this in their lockerroom. Some guys wouldn't.

Either way, it's not worth the risk.

I realize you can't retire every number, but I'd be lying if I said that didn't bother me a little.

what?

You think that would be good for team morale?

Sorry dude...

Why do you think none of the gay players have ever come out of the closet?

Eh, if you can play then you can play. Big Ben has [allegedly] done worse and he's still going to win football games and he's not going lose his entire locker room.

I don't know...

Rape is terrible, obviously...

But I'm not sure ****ing your own sister is any better or worse than rape...

and there is no [allegedly] about that...

He might have NFL talent...he might have starter upside...still not touching him with a 20 foot pole.

but he ****ed his sister

he has no chance

I feel bad for him now...

He is KIND OF right...why invite him to the combine if everyone is just going to blacklist him?

and it sucks that one mistake can totally ruin someone's life...

but it is what it is...hopefully he can take advantage of that college degree he probably got for free while playing football...

It sucks but he has seem to said ****ing your sister happens all the time as if it wasn't a ****ed up thing...

where were the parents i guess

From what I've read, the parents were "questionable" to say the least.

No offense to anyone living there but the Louisiana Bayou is host to a ton of weirdass shit (and people with less than 50 IQ points - no joke).

Incest occurs frequently in the South. It's just not a hotbed topic.

But it's there, all the same.

I worked with an inbred guy the summers between my first two years in college. Which shouldn't come as a big surprise in southern west virginia. I also worked with people who believed a race war was coming, and that those damn negroes were about to take over. I guess they're still waiting. I always wondered how they got their inside information, since we lived in an area almost entirely devoid of any skin color.

My wife has a friend from NoCal that is an orchestrator and conductor.

One of her early jobs placed her at the university in Knoxville, Tennessee.

There was a Kroger about 20 minutes outside of town that people referred to as "Halloween" Kroger because of all the inbred genetic mutants that frequented the place.

No joke.

Living in Central Louisiana for 3 years, I can promise you, those folks just arent right with the Lord....

dude was thrown in jail for his fetish of banging the neighbors chickens...
I shit you not...

:shake:

thats ****ed

Probably the most similar and frightening place I've ever been was a wal-mart in Northern Arkansas, not far from Branson, which was as I recall very close to the headquarters of the knights of the kkk. We're talking a store full of people that were fluorescent white with rather...rounded features. The whole time I'm in there I'm thinking "god I hope they can't tell I'm catholic" (I still was at that point...). It looked like something out of a living dead movie.

the KKK hates Catholic people?

Shit...learned something knew today.

Oh yeah, they're protestants only. Or they were at one point. I'm not exactly up-to-date on the latest in klan policy.

Consensual sex, and I'm not advocating incest here, is always better than rape. Rape is sexual torture. Consensual sex between siblings is all kinds of icky, but a mistake that people can move on from. Well, except for NFL front offices and message board arbiters of locker room dogma, apparently.

The KKK wasn't originally a bad thing.

Seriously? Moving on from ****ing my sister? If I somehow in a drunken stooper ****ed my sister, I would eat my ****ing gun. There is no moving on from something like that. The guy has to be broken to think it was a possibly a mistake and move on from it. The guy needs to eat a bullet.

For the record, because of this post, I think you are a much worse person than Tony Washington.

Explain.

I did in the neg rep I sent you.

Yes, thank you for my very first neg rep in 8 years. You are justifying sex with siblings. Sorry, that is wrong any way you look at it. Perhaps you are unable to attain pleasures from anyone outside your family, and for that I am sorry for you. I was merely saying that I would definately end my life if I had sex with my sister. I can certainly do better than my sister.

I guess from where you are from it is okay and acceptable. Keep sending the neg reps ****head, cause this is the internet and you probably won't have to face me man to man at any point.

I sent the neg rep because I didn't want to trouble the rest of the people in the thread with my spite for you. Man-to-man; Jesus, grow up.

You as a 20? 30? 40? year old man would kill yourself if you ever had sex with your sister? Sure. Fine. Now place yourself in the shoes of a hormonal, relatively uneducated 15 year old who wasn't taught that sex with siblings is morally wrong. Still want yourself to die?

The sex that Washington had with his sister was wrong. Everyone agrees on this point, including Tony Washington. He's not going to sleep with a sibling ever again; he's aware of his past mistakes and why they were mistakes.

Though you proclaimed your disdain in your post. How can you say you did not want to trouble the rest of the people with your spite? So do not give me your 'man to man' bullshit. Yeah, I think anyone who ****s their sister needs to not exist. That's my opionion. Just like yours is to live and let live. I assume you also grant child molesters another chance.

Hey, I had a rough ****ing childhood too. Parents who abused alchohol, drugs, and the gang factor. But you know what, I pulled myself up by my boot straps and moved on. At no point did I ever blame my childhood, parental upbringing, or lack therof, on who I was.

I never made an excuse. I was not taught specifically that I should not **** my sister, but I knew it was wrong. So you can take your sad song and shut it up your ass. You are one of the people that is wrong with America today.

Jesus, I just read that again. you are one ****ed up mother ****er if you think all that shit is okay.... How many times will you justify incest and rape tonight?

Oh. Well.

You should post in the Washington D.C. part of the forum. There are plenty of people just like you over there. You'll make some friends.

what if your sister was really hot and you were really wasted?
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Perhaps I will. To bad we do not have a liberal board for you here. You guys could talk all night about giving sexual offenders second chances. You could be the chairman giving the child molestors and sister ****ers hugs and kisses and praise cause it wasn't really their fault. You can blame it all on society and their parents...... Isn't that nice. "you weren't taught not to **** your sister, you were not taught to not **** children, it's okay, it's your parents fault'

kids like you are just ****ing ****ed up.

The entire NFL is so dumb
Why don;t they just sign Danario Alexander
he is the new randy moss
stupid asses

Are you referring to older more intelligent individuals than kids like yourself? There has been alot lost in the last two generations. Younger pukes like yourself have not had to suffer anything. Most likely, your mommy and daddy are taking care of your college and your car. You sit behind a computer and bitch out how wrong your life is all the while listening to a tune on your ipod. Grow up fast bitch. There is a much bigger world out there.

I see the point about maybe the other players would have a problem with his past. This happened several years ago though. I would bring him into camp see how he plays and fits in and make the decision after that.

We need to give Zach Watkins a shot. Smallish guy, but talk about a motor.

Think from the ownership, GM, and HC on the risk reward factor. Say there wasn't already an article or two out there and it was all kept under wraps. You still risk the major distraction it would cause if/when it became public knowlege. Even Joe Posnaski couldn't put out a feel good story on this kid.

Sometimes with a player with issues you can factor in the age of the overall roster and maybe fit a kid with a veteran group. In this case it wouldn't matter. Casey Weigman is the eldest IIRC. Hell, even in this case he is an OLmen. I don't know Casey personally but i doubt he could do anything but sit there and shake his head in disbelief. The younger group would have him nicknamed sister fucker in a matter of days.

For a front office, coaching staff, and player development department, there is no precedent for how to take a player and make him part of the team, for a guy that even years ago screwed his sister and she had a kid from that incedent. Again the fact that there is his story out in the media already. Even if it wasn't they would run the risk it would come out and tear the team apart with the shitstorm of coverage it would get.

Why bring 1 player with this strange past that could disrupt 53 players plus the rest of the organization?

You are spewing loads of shit here.

The Chiefs are ****ing themselves by not signing Tony Washington.

I don't give a shit if he ****ed monkeys.

The kid was honest and open about the whole situation.

He's a first round talent. We need a RT.

And I'll be the first ****er off the bus to bust someones ass if anyone gives the guy shit.

Mistake made. He's been honest about it. Cast the first stone you ****ing cock suckers.

It is a somewhat sympathetic story given his background and how he appear to have changed. Still the guy ****ed his sister and that is a pretty big deal. You know of any other registered sex offenders in pro sports?

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Still not registered sex offenders or found guilty of anything even though they possibly did some awful shit.

I can just imagine the players and coaches going home to their wives after the first day of meeting their new teamate. Sit down for dinner and say hunny at what age do you suppose we should talk to bobby about the fact it's not ok to screw his little sister?

What a great way to reopen the reconstructed arrowhead on MNF. Espn being the slimy pukes they are would air one of those "outside the lines" specials on the situation the day of the game.

Pro football talk would quote some league source saying plenty of teams monitoring the situation w/KC to see how it turns out because there is this unamed college RB who is draft eligable in 2011 who is an amazing talent but when he was 16 he climed a ladder at the zoo and fucked a giraffe in front of a bunch of people. Peta made a big fuss and the guy can't have pets for the rest of his life but the media was kept away cause both he and the animal were underage. But he's had a clean slate ever since.

Seriously this isn't the circus.

Jerry Jones is the owner/gm and all he would have to do is tell his coaches, etc to deal with it because they need help at OT. He isn't biting so far. He is in the best positon to do so.

I hope the guy succeeds at whatever he does for a career even playing pro football. It's probably going to have to start in Canada or the UFL first. And the scout in the NFP article was dead on when he said he didn't think that in the world that NFL players live in and the people around them that things wouldn't be very easy on this kids mistake and not give him any crap about it.

Guy is 6'7 300lbs. So he is a devout christian that is great for him. Nothing he can do but move on. It may have not been a problem in college but if this kid snaps he could seriously hurt someone when/if he snaps to negative comments. I'd be so thrilled if he went Eddie Freeman on someone during the hot as piss days of august during camp.

let me know when Tony Dungy starts telling teams to take a chance on the guy before i waste any more time with this.

cast the first stone? really? Ok, I've never ****ed my sister, ever, any of them even the ones that are sisters by marriage and not by blood. **** him for ****ing his sister, that makes him a piece of shit for doing it, and he has to realize it's never going to go away. "but I'm older and I know it was wrong" too bad, you get hazed for being fat, your girl cheating on you, not doing your job 100% in athletic/police/fire locker rooms, military services, etc etc. Made your bed lay in it, play by big boy rules, take the responsibity for your actions, and suck it up and drive on forward.

Now, I'm in the band wagon that he doesn't need to kill himself. And kudo points are awarded for being open and up front about it, it not only shows character, but it also shows he's made piece with himself over it. This is a sign of true remorse and acknowledgement of his wrongs and that is also worthy of awarding kudo points.

I say bring him in, but you are going to hold him to a different standard, maybe. I think I'd understand that. counseling program that is continued through his time on team. Take measures to protect the team and your decision to bring him on board, what ever is agreeable to both sides. Like I said before, be ready for the critics, the hazing.

Look people I strongly believe in rehabilitation. There are very few crimes/actions/character flaws - that can't be overcome/paid for(time served, not money)/ or changed with different influences, taking different paths, education. People do bad thing all the time for various reasons, I have no intent on justifing his actions, because they don't deserve to be justified. But it doesn't mean he can't play ball for my ball club.

From my experience, I counted my teammates as "family members" and it scares me to think of "sister ****er" as a "family member".

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All jokes aside, if NFL teams felt it wouldn't be an issue moving forward, he would have a job.

I suggest counseling because he still kinda feels that he did nothing wrong. I wonder what questions were asked that were the true red flags for GMs that got him blackballed...

He had to set off some serious alarms for his level of talent to not even be given a UDFA contract. Makes you seriously wonder what else is "good to go" for this guy.

and every time we score a td he could do the sister ****ing dance...