Mo Carthon needs an eye-bleeding, Haley ass-chew to shut him the **** up.

All he has to do is cut his hair. But you have to as well. Then the Chiefs will play him. So the question is will you, Mecca, take one for the team and cut your glorious feathered Bret Michael'd heavenly locks? Or will you forever be shamed in Chiefs kingdom for not doing what is necessary to help your team win?:hmmm:

Yes, like that.

My hair has little to do with it sir, however I will not shave or trim my beard until he starts in protest.

LMAO

...my money is on the latter half of the season when teams start wearing down, they're gonna cut him loose...and he's gonna wreak havoc.

Haley challenged him to 200 @ Denver...he responded with 259. Haley is well aware of his talent.

It's a long season...

Gunther Cunningham approves of this.

This. **** you Mo Carthon. Die in a ****ing fire, you dumb, piece of shit. Absolutely ****ing ridiculous that a moron like Carthon (who has a history of this shit) would even attempt to dress down a back that has more ****ing talent in his pinky than Carthon's entire family line has ever had. This shit pisses me off to no end. I'd fire Carthon ****ing immediately if this shit is true.

I'll reserve judgment until I see how this plays out. 2 games and one speculative report is enough reason to be concerned, but not to the extent that we've seen in this thread.

There is no reason whatsoever to alienate a player like Charles. He's tremendously talented, and by all accounts, the exact type of player that this regime wants on it's football team.

LMAO I think Mo will be my new Sake-fetcher.

I'm not doubting that. I just think we need just a little more to base it on than this. We don't know if Weis or Haley chewed Carthon out. We don't know if Weis has other plans for Charles in the early going. Or if maybe he just didn't like the matchup. We don't know if Nick is completely wrong, which is totally and completely possible.

If we're 5 or 6 games into the season and we're still seeing this, then okay. But for now, it's premature.

2009 Haley: You could be special Jamal !!
2010 Haley: Bench, bitch
perfect sense

I hope Jamaal is violently pushing the back of his head by the end of the year.

Where is this story at? Too many damn pages...

it's unfortunate that we start 2-0 and lose our best player. I guess winning games comes with paying heavy prices.

I'd settle for Crennel slapping him on the head like that old man from 'Benny Hill'.

There is no story really. Just trying to get ratings. KC media at its geniouz finest.

I said this back on like page 4.

:D

That said, the Chiefs organization would be far better off without that dickhead around.

It pisses me off to no end that he's in KC. He's a ****ing piece of shit.

Yeah, I believe it. I couldn't get any further in this thread without the risk of stroking out so I stopped reading at that gif. It's beyond me what the thought process could possibly be in dealing with JC. There is NO indication that he's the kind of guy that needs, deserves, or would benefit from that type of treatment. I guess now we know why he referred to himself as a backup in the post game. :shake:

I rewatched the game and made a note to look at every single 3rd and 6 possession we had. The only one I saw where there was a little bit of reaction out of Charles was when the Chiefs took a timeout and Charles was hanging his head a little. There was no focus of him on the sidelines at all.

It wouldn't surprise me if something is happening, and if it is, I support Charles 100%.

Same here. But, what would you speculate is 'happening'? Certainly not a trade.

I'd speculate that Mo Carthon is acting like a dick and WAY over his pay grade, just to make a name for himself, just like he always does.

Charles is probably embarrassed and pissed.

Really?

I'm in.

I'm not saying he'll get traded, more like if he's mad about the situation publicly.

You know, there's a video up on KCChiefs.com from the locker room right after the game. Charles is shown at the beginning. He doesn't look particularly despondent.

Pfft... **** reality, this is about RATINGS.

I wouldn't think it'd be a trade UNLESS somebody offered us stupid compensation for one of our running backs. Which I really don't see at this point.

Interesting point, but it shouldn't matter who brought whom in. I think the better back should be playing. JC is proven. McCluster isn't. Seems a bit premature to dump JC in favor of DMC.

Also, if the motive in taking DMC was to replace JC, that seems like a wasted pick to me. What is the point of drafting a position that was already adequately filled when we have so many holes elsewhere?

You know what else I find particularly comical?

Mecca has been pretty much a ghost for the last 4 months. However, at the first sign of trouble with the Chiefs, he's all over this thread.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...8-25d67eff8816

No, he looks to be smiling, maybe it is just for the camera but it doesn't appear that way.
It's funny how dorky Cassel is. At least he is at the door thanking his teammates for bailing his ass out.

The patented dutch oven thread move
is losing it's overpowering grip
to the beans!!!!!!!!!!1

It doesn't look like he even sees the camera. He was literally just walking in.


At first I thought the guy hugging Cassel after Charles was #90, which would be Shaun Smith. (It was actually #98). But I was imagining Smith being like "Yo, Matt, I gotta tell you what I did to this dude's balls."

And then goes on to say that he has no complaints and its all good as long as we win.

Its unfortunate that he's not getting more touches, but this a mountain out of a molehill on Wright's part.

Don't mind him. Coogs probably had a little too much of "grandpa's cough syrup" before his trade extravaganzas popped into his head ;)

30 pages from this...

That right there, by definition, explains why he's equivalent to a troll.

I would not doubt that DMC was originally brought in to be the slot receiver. When he was at Ole Miss, they played him at receiver for the first 5 or 6 games of the year last year before they moved him back to the RB position. I don't know if I can find the quote, but I am sure I read Houston Nutt commented that he should have never taken him off of the RB spot. I wonder if the Chiefs are finding out the same thing?

In any event, McCluster is one hell of a good RB. Heck, we saw some great runs out of him in preseason. And he had some unbelievable runs at Ole Miss.

And don't get me wrong, I love Charles. I just don't think the brass at Arrowhead will leave their high 2nd round pick in the shed any longer than they have to.

And I am not really saying the Chiefs should trade Charles. But something is just not adding up at the RB spot when the 2nd best RB in the NFL can not get on the field... or that we even needed to bring in 2 legit guys at that same position. Jones isn't going anywhere, and neither is McCluster. Odd man out is... Charles. :shrug:

Stop ruining this thread with these facts!

I don't even care that it was Charles who was getting called a backup. Ultimately, there's no shame in being a backup, they're just as important to win as the starters are.

What pisses me off is a coach deriding somebody by calling them a "backup," as if that's somehow unimportant.

Has it crossed your minds that they may have been saving them both for this weekend's game and not giving the 49ers any more game film to prepare?

This

This whole ordeal is just laughable to me .... but to this post specifically - do you really think that the Chief's brass looked at the schedule before the season started and said you know that San Fran team .... that is the one where we unleash Charles........ Yep, lets hold him back against San Diego and Cleveland .... that will work right fellas ...........

I don't think so....... all it is to me is that the lack of production by the offense means less plays and less playing time for all on the offense. I believe that they have Charles in the game plan they have just not had any sustained drives to implement their game plan.

no, because it's too dumb to even contemplate

And last year he said the same things about Bowe and DJ and they have trained and played like never before. So yeah it's a big danger.

If Charles is a big enough pussy he won't get inspired and fight to be the starter then **** him he deserves to be the backup.

break out da floaters

How the **** did Thomas Jones "fight" to be the starter? He was just given the ****ing job like Broke-Dick Vrabel.

Period. End of discussion. Debate OVER.

Too many fans fail to realize that much more than what we see or hear goes on.

You weren't at OTA's, off season conditioning, all of TC etc...

I doubt Vrable deserves to start. But what you dont understand is he KNOWS this defense. And since we have so much youth out there, he's kinda like on-field coach. Do I like it? No. I'd much rather have someone out there who can actually play the position at a higher level.

I hate the fact that JC isnt getting more carries. We dont know why that is. I cant even speculate. Its vexing, to be sure.

Those who dislike Pioli will clutch onto any negative Chiefs' because it supports their agenda.

As an NFL HC once said, "You think you know, but really don't."

What more can Charles do? 7 yards a carry, 8? Thomas Jones is a good running back, Jamaal Charles is a gamebreaker.

Is is possible that JC is being used sparingly because of his shoulder surgery? Is it possible that the game plan is to use Jones up early, and have JC ready to whoop ass in the last 6 games of the season? Is it possible that they have put some more thought into this than some silly "pride" issue and some crap about not being the guys who drafted JC?

Could it be, that Chiefs Nation, sitting in the un-likely position of having our beloved team at 2-0, just doesn't know what the **** to do with itself?

From the Crennel Q&A on the 17th from kcchiefs.com...

If the team were 0-2, the complaining about this would be x10.

Just funnin' with you BCD. Here is the rest of Crennels quote...

like running for 256 against denver? being the 2nd best RB in the league once they finally let him start?

and then being a made a backup to a slower less talented RB for no reason anyone anywhere will dare address?



he's 'earned' the right to start 10x times over

I love how Thomas Jones is also now a scrap heap RB. Guy ran for 1400 last year.

Behind the best OL in football arguably.

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Oh, horseshit.

Yea. I heard Houston's comment too. He did lament not moving McCluster to RB earlier.

I know he is, and potentially can be, a good RB. However, if DMC either was targeted for the RB spot (which is not what was advertised on draft day) or has evolved to make Charles the odd man out (hard to believe since DMC has had very few carries so far), then the Chiefs dropped the ball on Charles' value. If in fact he was/is the odd man out, his value would have never been higher than coming of last season's incredible second half and should have been traded (which I would not have been in favor of). If he is going to be kept on the roster, how can you justify not putting him on the field with the explosiveness he brings to the table?

There has got to be more to this story than Thomas beating out JC for the starting job. Thomas was elevated to number 1 on the depth chart before 2 weeks of camp had gone by. They hadn't even played in a preseason game at the time of that announcement. This is no slight on Thomas. I know he is a good back, but he is 32 and faded badly at the end of last season. How much mileage could be left? Why would you invest so much in somebody that likely isn't going to be around as long as a young Charles and is far less explosive?

The other mystery is Haley evades the question of Charles' play like the plague. When asked if he thought Charles was getting enough touches he answered the question by asking what their record was. What a cop out. Answering a question with a question is not an answer. If there is a difference between the players ability, why not simply answer the question? If you're going to hold these pressers and just rattle off cliches, save your breath and cancel them. Don't waste everybody's time. I was actually a little miffed that the reporter asking the question let Haley get away with that. As a paying fan, I wanted to know. But it's obvious that this will continue to be a mystery until either Haley or Charles leave the Chiefs. I don't think Charles will beef in public. He seems like a team first guy, which makes this even more of a head scratcher.

This X1000000000000000000000000000000

Oh yea that's it alright, maybe you should stick to diaper threads.

The part that humors me is LT has been getting more carries overall so far than Greene, nobody in New York gives a ****. Jones gets more here, 'THEY GONNA LOSE THE LOCKER ROOM JESUS CHRIST"

Charles > Greene

Why go full reerun? Why? They aren't going to "lose the locker room" b/c Charles isn't getting carries. They are going to "lose the locker room" b/c players see what might happen to them if "step out of line" which Charles didn't really even do. He was berated, embarrassed and made to feel lower than dirt in front of his teammates, intentionally. Don't be a DF...

He looked pretty distraught in that video of him coming into the locker room after the game.

Bump for 5 year contract extension.LMAO

LMAO

LMAO

I love these ****ing writers who base an opinion on how a player seems to react during a game. Unless you are there everyday you don't ****ing know. Any dumb ass on this board can write an article like this every week. Glad he was dead wrong.

Now Nick Wright is tweeting that Charles got screwed on the deal and his agent should be fired.

He's a radio host.

I keep hearing Nick W. being mentioned and I have no clue who he is.

Although, given the takes I read on this board, I have to assume he's probably about as accurate as Athan, which means he's twice as accurate as Goatcheese.

This pic of Nick tells you everything you need to know.

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/NickWright.jpg

He's probably the most entertaining choice of our local radio guys; but we just have awful sports media in this town.

I've listed to Wright when I have been in KC and he sounds like a Jim Rome-wannabe.

A radio host with a voice for newspaper. He sounds like David Spade - not a good voice for radio